My two sons will be of military age soon I would not support active involvement in any war that would risk their lives for Europe, Middle Eastern or other far flung countries when there is no real threat to mainland US.
What the fuck…
Like, I get it. I’m from a red state, my public education is not the best.
But where did you grow up that they didn’t even cover WW2 in school?
We ignore countries invading other countries, and we lose our allies while countries like Russia grow stronger.
They’ll never stop. Even if Russia “restored the USSR” they’re not going to just sit back and relax once that happens.
“Sparing” your two sons from a war that’s not going to even have a draft is dooming your grandchildren to living thru ww3 where there will be a draft again and even civilian survivors will (if incredibly lucky and wealthy)live through nuclear Armageddon.
Proxy wars are the only way we’ve avoided more nuclear bombs, and if one side stops fighting the other is just going to speed up.
If you want to send your sons and/or enlist yourself to fight in other countries conflicts be my guest. Ukraine is taking foreign fighters you could sign up and serve to protect your global order tomorrow.
Russia has proven incompetent at modern warfare. The Europeans can figure out how to defend against them on their own.
Once we have reshored our industrial base in a decade there is no reason to support the global order as it stands. Let Europe or China try and maintain the sea ways and keep peace in areas like Africa and the Middle East if they need those resources so bad. Honestly, it would be better for the worlds environment if they couldn’t continue ravaging the land and burning fossil fuels.
As stated before I have no problem with providing material support. But I have no interest in involving American troops if there are no direct threats to our homeland.
Mate the Russians don’t have to be competent, they just to zerg their way in. Like they are successfully doing now in Ukraine since the Ukrainian army has to put strict quotas on ammo usage.
I was enlisted around 20 years ago in the middle of Afghan/Iraq madness and was going around American bases to “protect them from terrorists” and I’d happily do it again since it means my family won’t have to be subject of nuclear Armageddon
What the fuck…
Like, I get it. I’m from a red state, my public education is not the best.
But where did you grow up that they didn’t even cover WW2 in school?
We ignore countries invading other countries, and we lose our allies while countries like Russia grow stronger.
They’ll never stop. Even if Russia “restored the USSR” they’re not going to just sit back and relax once that happens.
“Sparing” your two sons from a war that’s not going to even have a draft is dooming your grandchildren to living thru ww3 where there will be a draft again and even civilian survivors will (if incredibly lucky and wealthy)live through nuclear Armageddon.
Proxy wars are the only way we’ve avoided more nuclear bombs, and if one side stops fighting the other is just going to speed up.
Buddy, the US was supplying the Nazis (well bothd sides) as a “neutral country” up until Pearl Arbor. A whole two years after the start of the war.
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So you think we should do the same now?
The other person is arguing for inaction, I’m saying it’ll get worse if we ignore it like in ww2 and try to stay neutral…
And you tell me we tried to stay neutral in ww2 like it’s some kind of “got ya”?
Your reading comprehension needs work. I made no such comment. I simply pointed out that your premises was historically false.
If you want to send your sons and/or enlist yourself to fight in other countries conflicts be my guest. Ukraine is taking foreign fighters you could sign up and serve to protect your global order tomorrow.
Russia has proven incompetent at modern warfare. The Europeans can figure out how to defend against them on their own.
Once we have reshored our industrial base in a decade there is no reason to support the global order as it stands. Let Europe or China try and maintain the sea ways and keep peace in areas like Africa and the Middle East if they need those resources so bad. Honestly, it would be better for the worlds environment if they couldn’t continue ravaging the land and burning fossil fuels.
As stated before I have no problem with providing material support. But I have no interest in involving American troops if there are no direct threats to our homeland.
Mate the Russians don’t have to be competent, they just to zerg their way in. Like they are successfully doing now in Ukraine since the Ukrainian army has to put strict quotas on ammo usage.
I was enlisted around 20 years ago in the middle of Afghan/Iraq madness and was going around American bases to “protect them from terrorists” and I’d happily do it again since it means my family won’t have to be subject of nuclear Armageddon
Well thank you for your service, but don’t expect me and mine to protect them and theirs.