• idoubledo@lemmy.sdf.org
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    8 months ago

    FYI most protestors on the border are either family of current Hamas hostages or people who were dislocated due to the war.

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      8 months ago

      they are giving interviews on TV… they are the same right wing leaders and groups that are always doing this bull shit in Israel most of them have no relation to the hostages.

      A lot of the kibbutzes in the areas raided were home to much more left-leaning Israelis including peace activists… these are absolutely not the people stopping aid trucks.

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      8 months ago

      And how is starving more than 2 Millions innocent, and mind you a big chunk of those are underage kids, helping their cause?

      And Israel can easily prevent this, but they simply don’t care about Palestinians, who they are actively trying to dehumanize.

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        8 months ago

        Yeah, go ahead and tell the Israeli Police/Army, who are most likely also a first/second circle of people who got personally affected by the acts of October 7th to forcibly evacuate people who are heart broken by the fact that their relatives are in a terror tunnel in Gaza, and the country which they live in and is supposed to get them out are instead sending aid which has been proven to be stolen by the same terrorists who have their relatives.

        When this absurd theater of life interacts with reality not everything is that simple to achieve.

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          Fuck those poor, helpless, blockaded, starving civilians that have been bombed from their homes, if we give them water/food/power/ceasefire it goes to Hamas

          Your bitterness and hatred will just continue the cycle of violence. I hope you do better, but history has shown that we don’t. Look beyond yourself and your pain, and maybe ask why

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            Fuck those poor, helpless, blockaded, starving civilians that have been bombed from their homes, if we give them water/food/power/ceasefire it goes to Hamas

            Where did I say that, why do you misquoted me?

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              8 months ago

              You replied to a commenter pointing out that a million plus civilians are starving to death, with “WHAT ABOUT THE ISRAELI POLICE???”

              Everyone except the most hardcore anti-semites was completely horrified on Oct 7-9. Then the IDF began its bombing campaign, and here we are today, quibbling over which hospital is okay to blow up, or how much the Israelis should be allowed to starve the Gazan

              Just like the Global War on Terror, the crimes done by America dominate the discussions and history- 9/11 and the civilian deaths is acknowledged as the casus belli but the overreaction is our legacy

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                  8 months ago
                  • Israel is currently subject to an ICJ judgement to prevent harm to civilians in Gaza
                  • Ignoring that, basic human decency demands that you take measures to help people
                  • Especially if you are blockading that area, so only what you allow goes in
                  • Doubly so if you do not make accommodation for those civilians’s safety or survival outside of the combat zones, but leave them locked in a tiny geographical area

                  The IDF have been severely limiting aid in not Gaza through all of the checkpoints. This is well documented

                  Israeli civilians are making their own blockades of the crossings, and the IDF is allowing them to block aid. This is also well documented

                  At least 20 out of 22 hospitals identified by CNN in northern Gaza were damaged or destroyed in the first two months of Israel’s war against Hamas, from October 7 to December 7, according to a review of 45 satellite images and around 400 videos from the ground, as well as interviews with doctors, eyewitnesses and humanitarian organizations. Fourteen were directly hit, based on the evidence collected and verified by CNN and analyzed by experts.

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          8 months ago

          So you just proved how racism works. When the suffering of 100 Israelis > suffering of 2M + Palestinians.

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            That’s not racism, that’s just your interpretation of these events. All I did was to correct the commenter about the identity of those protesting.

            I doubt you would do anything different if you would be in their shoes.

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          So what’s your solution, let’s leave all Palestinians die of hunger?

          And again to reiterate, Hamas might have killed a bit less than 1000 civilians, but IDF has killed 20 times more. They are also responsible for the destruction of almost half the civilian infrastructure there, the destruction of civilian homes, agricultural land, mass starvation, has created dire humanitarian catastrophe, damaged hospitals, killed paramedics, kids, manage to turn this war the deadliest for journalists in modern history, committed numerous war crimes, are investigated by the ICJ for committing genocide, etc. and you still defend them?

          Shall we also mention that you managed to frustrate greatly even your closest ally the US, who is getting more annoyed with you by the day and now you are planning to attack Rafah, where more than half of the population of Gaza is sheltering, pushing them more to the abyss of despair.

          And these are indisputable FACTS.

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      Dislocated and living in hotels, having access to food, clean water, healthcare.

      Shall we talk about the dislocated Gazans who are living in makeshift tents, have no food, water, electricity or access to healthcare?

      Or do you want to comment out on the fact that Israeli authorities are not permitting delivery of tent poles because those poles can be used as weapons? Imagine fighting tanks with tent poles… Source: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/civilians-or-hamas-dual-use-issue-complicates-gaza-aid-efforts-2024-01-05/