• davelMA
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    Political cults that purport to be left-wing seem like such a minor thing to worry about. The LaRouchite & PatSoc & Infrared cults have never grown to any significance.

    All three of the examples I reviewed are based on or inspired by a branch of the Leninist tradition

    Oh, I see. Whatever you do, stay away from Marxism-Leninism, the only socialist tradition that has proven successful thus far 🙄

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      have never grown to any significance.

      I think their significance is actually pretty high for those affected or indoctrinated by those cults.

      Marxism-Leninism, the only socialist tradition that has proven successful thus far

      How do you define success? Being a great blue print for cults? Like every(okay not every single one) Leninist group in my area seems to just one sex pest scandal away from turning into a legitimite cult

      (Also I usually associate Marxism Leninism with Stalinism, while Leninism is for me something different from that.)

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        How do you define success?

        China has a full high speed rail network covering an entire billion+ country, has a surplus of housing, rent is 70% lower in Shenzen, a city 3x larger than London and can provide healthcare to every person inside of it.

        I define it by comparision, why can a ‘cult’ provide more than other countries of similar sizes? (India, America)

        This is a childish arguement.

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          Newsweek: Americans Can Now Expect to Live Three Years Less than Cubans

          lol this is exactly what I expected, some statistic about live expectancy or literacy rate. I kinda get that, but its a perspective that I dont really care about. Because its the states perspective.

          And I thought we would atleast agree that the so called USA is fucked up and just shitty. Why would you want to compare yourself with that? Its like a really low bar to clear and atleast for me not a sign of success.

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    cults are when people do stuff that is based on reading books and the more books you read and the more you do stuff the more cult you are

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      In his defense (and if a Fandom wiki page is to be believed—I didn’t click through to many of the references) he claims to have read… some anarchists. AFAIK he’s made no claim of having read any Marxists. https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Andrewism

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        Literally the first anarchist thinker hes quoted as liking said this, maybe he should try reading them, they literally preach about working with marxists as allies.