Unfortunately you’ll be waiting for a while. SSDs were at the lowest last year to the point that manufacturers were almost losing money. So they reduced production. We will only see the prices going up from now, at least for a while.
You can’t really even find a 10+ TB SSD easily right now let alone anything approaching 20, so it’s a moot point for now anyway. All that pricing stuff is cyclical though. There was a big spike in SSD prices a couple years ago prior to that huge price drop we just saw. It’ll come back down again eventually.
We just moved over to a HDD setup recently because I had run out of space on SSD and the amount of space is great, but I forgot how much I hate HDD seek and transfer times and I’m not gonna invest in RAID for now so I guess this is my life.
Might be smart to maybe keep my most active shows on an SSD and the rest of the catalog on the HDD.
Seagate rather invents new tech to create 30TB HAMR drives than making 3.5" SSDs and laying 3/4 PCBs with each 2TB TLC capacity in the caddy…
Can’t be that expensive in comparison to squeezing 10TB on a 2.5" drive.
Samsung is selling some somewhat affordable 8TB drives but I feel like that’s kind of an odd spot for size where it’ll hold a lot of stuff, but when you get to that level of kinda semi-deranged collector mentality file hoarding, you’re gonna blow past 8 pretty easily. I’m hoping it’ll actually happen in a few years.
what’s the point of SSD for archival purposes? seem like less safe option than HDD and speed is not really issue for long term archiving or watching TV shows/movies, I don’t really see point in SSD besides running OS/apps
I have not seen a consumer SSD of 10 or more TB for sale anywhere and absolutely not 20. So the answer is, I have no idea.
Samsung has started selling 8TB drives for around 500-600 which is really not that bad, but I’m just gonna wait a couple years for larger capacities to hit the market and skip 8. It’s in my opinion kind of a middling size if you’re archiving a lot of video.
For now I’ll just stick with the high capacity HDD setup I’m using.
Last time I checked:
500GB = 50-70€
1TB = 60-80€
2TB = 110-150€ (depending on product tier like samsung evo or pro models)
4TB = 250-400€ (same here)
8TB = >600€
Obviously different pricing for M.2/SATA/SAS drives.
Might be a silly question, but aren’t SSD’s supposedly worse than HDD’s for storing data long term? Or is that just a myth?
I’ve read that if you only store data and then read it off the disk without overwriting then it’s comparable to HDD data degradation wise. Not sure how true is that.
If you dump 8tb of data onto a 10tb SSD and only read from it, it will probably last just as long as a hard drive. SSD’s wear from lots of write operations, reading from them doesn’t really do much other than the cache will be damaged over time.
Honestly my biggest thing is for affordable 10 or even 20 TB SSDs to hit the market.
Unfortunately you’ll be waiting for a while. SSDs were at the lowest last year to the point that manufacturers were almost losing money. So they reduced production. We will only see the prices going up from now, at least for a while.
You can’t really even find a 10+ TB SSD easily right now let alone anything approaching 20, so it’s a moot point for now anyway. All that pricing stuff is cyclical though. There was a big spike in SSD prices a couple years ago prior to that huge price drop we just saw. It’ll come back down again eventually.
We just moved over to a HDD setup recently because I had run out of space on SSD and the amount of space is great, but I forgot how much I hate HDD seek and transfer times and I’m not gonna invest in RAID for now so I guess this is my life.
Might be smart to maybe keep my most active shows on an SSD and the rest of the catalog on the HDD.
An HDD’s sequential transfer speed is good enough. If seeking is a problem, don’t do whatever you did.
Seagate rather invents new tech to create 30TB HAMR drives than making 3.5" SSDs and laying 3/4 PCBs with each 2TB TLC capacity in the caddy…
Can’t be that expensive in comparison to squeezing 10TB on a 2.5" drive.
I’ve been waiting for that for over ten years now. I thought it would take two at most.
Samsung is selling some somewhat affordable 8TB drives but I feel like that’s kind of an odd spot for size where it’ll hold a lot of stuff, but when you get to that level of kinda semi-deranged collector mentality file hoarding, you’re gonna blow past 8 pretty easily. I’m hoping it’ll actually happen in a few years.
what’s the point of SSD for archival purposes? seem like less safe option than HDD and speed is not really issue for long term archiving or watching TV shows/movies, I don’t really see point in SSD besides running OS/apps
To each their own. I don’t care for the bulk of RAID setups or the transfer and seek time of individual spinning disks.
What’s the current price roughly?
I have not seen a consumer SSD of 10 or more TB for sale anywhere and absolutely not 20. So the answer is, I have no idea.
Samsung has started selling 8TB drives for around 500-600 which is really not that bad, but I’m just gonna wait a couple years for larger capacities to hit the market and skip 8. It’s in my opinion kind of a middling size if you’re archiving a lot of video.
For now I’ll just stick with the high capacity HDD setup I’m using.
Guessing you’ve got some sort of raid setup going on. You could always get lower capacity SSDs and do some work on a revolutionary compression algo 😉
Thanks, now I gotta watch Silicon Valley again
Last time I checked:
500GB = 50-70€
1TB = 60-80€
2TB = 110-150€ (depending on product tier like samsung evo or pro models)
4TB = 250-400€ (same here)
8TB = >600€
Obviously different pricing for M.2/SATA/SAS drives.
About tree fiddy.
Not seen this low quality meme in years
Tree fiddy years?
Might be a silly question, but aren’t SSD’s supposedly worse than HDD’s for storing data long term? Or is that just a myth?
I’ve read that if you only store data and then read it off the disk without overwriting then it’s comparable to HDD data degradation wise. Not sure how true is that.
If you dump 8tb of data onto a 10tb SSD and only read from it, it will probably last just as long as a hard drive. SSD’s wear from lots of write operations, reading from them doesn’t really do much other than the cache will be damaged over time.
From what time are we talking here? 1 year 24/7 or 10 years 24/7?