• jarfil
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    2 years ago

    You’re not wrong, but not all crypto is the same. Some have switched to “proof of stake” which removes all the energy wasted on mining, some allow to write programs into it that can execute automatically to do some interesting things, and some allow sending fractions (thousandths, millionths) of a USD with barely a transaction fee.

    Even in Europe, free bank-to-bank transfers take a couple days to execute (there is a paid option for instant transfers), and have a minimum of 0.01€ which might or might not be what you want to tip/pay someone for their content.

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      2 years ago

      I know about that stuff, but I just don’t see how you fix the fundamental problems of crypto without turning it into basically another ACH anyway. I.e. to regulate out the scammers, enable people to reverse transfers, tamp down on the straight out pump and dump schemes, wallet hacking / securing, the central exchanges going bust or being a scam themselves…

      I just think that by the time you make it equivalent to Visa or PayPal for end users, you’ve now made it basically one of those.

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        2 years ago

        Some people see the value of self-custody as superior to any downside. They don’t see it as a problem, and that’s most of the crypto we have now, with all its downsides.

        Regulation, reversing transfers, and all of that, can be implemented only by centrally controlled entities, which is in the process of happening as we speak. It will become the equivalent of VISA or PayPal, but hopefully with either one of those, or some other regulated entity, still allowing micropayments and at least some smart contacts.

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      2 years ago

      Not sure where in Europe you’re referring to but I’d be surprised if there’s anywhere in the EU where you can’t access free open banking transfers.

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        2 years ago

        Spain, and free yes, but not free and instant: