Why do Liberals consider the Holodomor as a “Genocide” but not the 1990s Russian Federation famine; at the same time they consider the Uyghur Issues as a “Genocide” but not the European Minorities (Scots, Welsh, Irish, Bretton, Catalonians, Basques, Sami etc) as several genocides?
I don’t think I need to elaborate any more here, except that I simply can’t understand why the whole “genocide denial” thing always apply to Ukrainians and Uyghurs but never to 1990s Russians and or to Scots, Welsh, Irish, Bretton, Catalonians, Basques, Sami, Venetians, Occitanians, Galicians, Cornish and the like. And even about the Indigenous peoples of the Americas and of Africa and Oceania too. And also, if Liberals are too obsessed with Holodomor, why don’t they talk about 1990s Russian Federation famine and about all the post-1990 famines all around the world on capitalist countries? Or even about historical capitalist famines like the Irish Potato Famine and all the famines on the British Raj? At this point liberals are even more genocide deniers than any tankie ever.
Personally, I’m half-Italian (half-Venetian) by blood, and there are literally very few content about the genocide / ethnic cleasing / cultural genocide Venetians have suffered over centuries under Austrian and Italian occupation… Brazilian Venetians have some things in common with pre-Italy Veneto than post-Italian Unification Veneto. Without mention it is also possible to talk about the genocide of Catalonians, Basques, Brettons, Occitanians, the Cornish, the Scots, the Welsh, the Irish, the Sami, and so over Europe, without mention all of the genocides that happened on the Americas against Natives as well.
So, no offense to you, but I see “ask” threads like this on
a lot. Where someone on like the neoliberal sub will be like “why are leftists who stupid?” or someone on the Vaush sub is like “why are tankies muh bad?”,the JP sub has a weekly “why do people who hate JP hate JP (is it cuz they’re secretly pedophiles?”
I find them really grating because we all know the person posting already has an answer to their question in their head they’re just looking for like minded people to reaffirm their opinions by repeating them back to them.
And maybe you’re not doing that, maybe you’re actually looking for some kind of insight into how liberals think here. You’re more likely to get that here than you are in any of the other site I mentioned. But I think you already kinda suspect when the answers will be. I’d like it if this site didn’t get into the habit of having these reaffirmation posts where we basically just ask the community to give us answers to questions we already have, to me it just makes us come off really insecure about our beliefs.
Well, in this case, I am mostly asking so because of how much liberals and anti-communists talk about “muh Holodomor”, “muh Communism/Socialism is a genocidal ideology” at the same time they just ignore all the genocides made by capitalism/neoliberalism.
I am mostly asking this because I am done of liberals instant banning me and or mass downvoting me on Lemmy and outside Lemmy for saying things like “the Holodomor was not intentional” and or “there were more far more famines and genocides under capitalism than under communism”.
And I think the last paragraph already says everything btw, I can’t take how much liberals can talk about “muh Uyghur genocide” and that’s it, and if you disagree with them you’re a “genocide denier” yet they will straight up deny all literal genocides of minorities on Europe and on the Americas… And that is fun how much they are for a “Uyghur Nation” yet they will call you “ethno-nationalist” if you support that all minorities from Europe (Catalonians, Basques, Galicians, Sami, Venetians, Scots, Welsh, Cornish, Northern Irish etc) have the right to have their own nations and to be members of the European Union and of the Schengen Space…
Yeah I get you, wasn’t trying to call you out specifically. I just find this general style of post a bit tedious even if there are legit reasons to make them sometimes I just wanted to air my gripes about them.