The topic of gas stoves ignited a heated debate last year when a Biden appointee suggested they could be banned because they posed a risk to human health.

But a ban isn’t in the works — and this week the administration will finalize a scaled-back plan to make new stoves less energy-intensive.

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      I can’t find anything regarding a <10 year lifespan, and of the various stoves I’ve had, I only replaced one and that was by choice (I wanted an induction stove, which is kind of amazing!)

      If you can source the stat, I’ll allow it, otherwise I’ll have to remove it as misinformation.

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          Cooking on an electric range is miserable. Does the impact of pollutants and carbon offset even cover the cost of replacement given the current efficiency?

          I’m all for reduction of pollutants and lessing our carbon footprint, but is this seems like a culture war topic to deflect from actual areas in society were a meaningful impact could be made.

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            ““Does the impact of pollutants and carbon offset even cover the cost of replacement given the current efficiency?””

            Gas stoves emit a variety of harmful air pollutants… The articles linked below indicate that these pollutants create a myriad of health issues that are particularly evident in children… The studies cited in the article indicate that exposure comparable to cooking with gas increased respiratory illness in children by 20%…

            https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-health-risks-of-gas-stoves-explained/

            Assuming a new stove costs $900, lasts 10 years, and you make $20/hr, missing just 6 days of work in that 10 year span from respiratory illness would cost more than getting a new stove. Considering that the NO2 quantity produced by gas stoves can cause a 20% increase in respiratory illness in children, I’d argue that switching is a no-brainer from a purely cost aspect, especially if you have children… Missing work to deal with a sick kid is a nightmare.

            If youre living alone & working from home, its likely that just factoring time lost to illness likely wouldn’t cover the cost of replacement, but that is just 1 factor out of many…

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              Wow, thank you for this. I still have not been impressed with how they are to cook with, but this does make it very enticing to make the switch. I’ve had both a coil & enamel top at different apts and hated both (coil better imo). I might have to find a way to demo a newer model somehow

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              10 months ago

              Some folks microwave everything. Here we argue about fancy food, and they are already living the solarpunk dream.

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        I also find that claim really odd. Electric stoves are pretty much unbreakable, at least the simple ones are.

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          It’s hard to find a simple coil top stove. Most now have computerized controls, those computers don’t last longer than 10 years before the capacitors in them wear out. Cost of repair is the the cost of a new stove.

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      The lifetime numbers you give are complete fiction from what I can tell; only way you end up with that is if the home appliance is getting used all day, every day, as if it were installed in a restaurant.

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          Cooking every day doesn’t mean “running all burners on the stove 10 hours per day”

          There’s a difference between using a stove all day, every day, and cooking meals for one family on it.

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            Doesn’t that beg the question…why aren’t l we forcing this upon restaurants and fast food where it will make the greatest impact?

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              You’re conflating two things:

              1. Most stoves are installed at home, and designed for ordinary at-home use
              2. A standard for the efficiency of new stoves manufactured 2028 and later

              That’s just sealioning.