My problem with Singer’s approach is that it is intent agnostic; it paints with broad strokes and claims that causing bad things, whether intended or not, is evil. It also claims that failing to stop bad things from happening is evil.
Me putting on a clean shirt after a workout, even though it will increase my laundry water usage, is not done maliciously. So I don’t think that is evil, even though drought exists somewhere in the world.
And if a child could stop a robber by turning a key in a door, but is too scared to do so, that doesn’t make them evil.
On the other hand, if I chose to drive a car that can roll coal specifically so that I could cause ill effects (such as upsetting or doing harm to people or the environment), that would be malicious and therefore evil.
I don’t necessarily agree with Singer’s points either, but I think Singer is running on the reality that we can really only judge intent when it comes to ourselves, it’s nigh-impossible to judge intent when we cannot know the contents of another humans mind. They can tell us how they feel, but some people are not honest about how they feel, and that can even come from things like social pressure or fear of rejection and other valid areas of feeling that are outside of “I am trying to deceive you for my own gain.” However, despite that, often giving into social pressure or fears of rejection often result in people making decisions that make things worse, not better. Despite the intent, the “deception” still ends up causing issues among a group of people.
So while I agree intent matters, I believe the position Singer is starting from is “with literally billions of humans, it’s impossibly to know intent of all of them and thus makes logical sense to judge by action.”
I think it would be more effective to critique his idea that evil exists as he describes it. Nature, from whence humans came, is brutal and unforgiving and many animals in nature eat their mates or their children for survivals sake. He would call those actions “evil” although they are, in the context of nature, merely survival instinct. In this sense, it’s easier to critique that he is essentially indicting nature itself as evil. Evil is a concept created by humans through our idea of “justice,” which is also a concept humans created. I just think that’s a more thorough way to debunk what he’s saying.
I think it’s an interesting idea to explore, but it doesn’t mean we have to agree with it.
Wandering a road largely untraveled MacKenzie Scott is leading while others, including with me, are ordinary and evil.
My problem with Singer’s approach is that it is intent agnostic; it paints with broad strokes and claims that causing bad things, whether intended or not, is evil. It also claims that failing to stop bad things from happening is evil.
Me putting on a clean shirt after a workout, even though it will increase my laundry water usage, is not done maliciously. So I don’t think that is evil, even though drought exists somewhere in the world.
And if a child could stop a robber by turning a key in a door, but is too scared to do so, that doesn’t make them evil.
On the other hand, if I chose to drive a car that can roll coal specifically so that I could cause ill effects (such as upsetting or doing harm to people or the environment), that would be malicious and therefore evil.
I don’t necessarily agree with Singer’s points either, but I think Singer is running on the reality that we can really only judge intent when it comes to ourselves, it’s nigh-impossible to judge intent when we cannot know the contents of another humans mind. They can tell us how they feel, but some people are not honest about how they feel, and that can even come from things like social pressure or fear of rejection and other valid areas of feeling that are outside of “I am trying to deceive you for my own gain.” However, despite that, often giving into social pressure or fears of rejection often result in people making decisions that make things worse, not better. Despite the intent, the “deception” still ends up causing issues among a group of people.
So while I agree intent matters, I believe the position Singer is starting from is “with literally billions of humans, it’s impossibly to know intent of all of them and thus makes logical sense to judge by action.”
I think it would be more effective to critique his idea that evil exists as he describes it. Nature, from whence humans came, is brutal and unforgiving and many animals in nature eat their mates or their children for survivals sake. He would call those actions “evil” although they are, in the context of nature, merely survival instinct. In this sense, it’s easier to critique that he is essentially indicting nature itself as evil. Evil is a concept created by humans through our idea of “justice,” which is also a concept humans created. I just think that’s a more thorough way to debunk what he’s saying.
I think it’s an interesting idea to explore, but it doesn’t mean we have to agree with it.
Controversial, but this should be voted higher, and folks really should check the video. Thanks for the link.