• Hardeehar@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      Exactly. I have a friend who was going through it, even considered offing herself, but in the end she kept going and came out on the other side better and more mature than ever.

      It took years, but she’s now in a much better position, stable, and learned valuable life lessons.

      She would say she was just surviving, but the desire to keep enduring takes strength, and to those of us who have never been tested like that, it is absolutely, 100% strength of character and will.

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        11 months ago

        Yup. It gets really dark and heavy at times but we survive. Sadly it’s often only when you get out of it that you can see how much strength you really had.

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      11 months ago

      Strength sometimes is about things out of our control. I’d argue that most times. Many people are fragile because of reasons out of their control as well. We’re all the sum of circumstances, evolutionary programming, social programming etc. The choices we make, we make them because of a lot of things out of our control. It’s hard to argue we even have free-will sometimes (but I do believe we do).

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        11 months ago

        Yeah I’m still on the fence about free will. I believe more and more we are just following our programming and reacting to our environment and our thoughts are just us reading and executing code. Then again I might just be insane 🤷

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          11 months ago

          Buddhists believe the same thing, in a way. I find comfort in my beliefs when they coincide with real old shit. Ancient philosophers or religions, etc. the older the better. Maybe I’M insane 🤷‍♂️

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            11 months ago

            Oh, that’s interesting. I definitely understand what you mean by finding comfort in those things.

            For me it goes both ways. Like yes it is comforting because it feels like yeah maybe there’s something there, but also like damn, we’ve been pondering the same thing for thousands of year and we still don’t know anything. Which I guess can also be seen as comforting depending on how you look at it.

            To be fair, I think that at this point in time, we’re all a little insane. It’s a necessary survival skill.

            • novibe
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              11 months ago

              I feel like we do have the answer. We’ve had it for a long time. Basically since the first records, we had it. Which makes me believe we had it before as well. But we always forget it, from our “conscious collective mind”, as in from the mainstream or zeitgeist. And then rediscover it again and again, in different words. But we have the answer, we always had it.