Ohio has banned gender-affirming care for minors and restricted transgender women’s and girls’ participation on sports teams, a move that has families of transgender children scrambling over how best to care for them.
The Republican-dominated Senate voted Wednesday to override GOP Gov. Mike DeWine’s veto. The new law bans gender-affirming surgeries and hormone therapies, and restricts mental health care for transgender individuals under 18. The measure also bans transgender girls and women from girls and women’s sports teams at both the K-12 and collegiate level.
We could have protected trans people’s rights at the national level, but it would have required getting rid of the filibuster.
“But the GOP might use it against us!” say Dems while the GOP actively uses it against the Dems making any kind of positive change.
If they would ditch it then they can accomplish something so that people will vote for them and then they only need the Presidency, Senate, or House to be able to accomplish the same thing as the filibuster. Keeping the filibuster when the GOPs entire platform is obstruction is just giving them more options to obstruct.
“But the GOP might use it against us!” say Dems while the GOP actively uses it against the Dems making any kind of positive change.
Historically, just for example, Biden has voted against LGBTQ rights. he flipped in 2019- supposedly- because of his presidential campaign. In the Senate, he consistently voted against gay marriage. Why any one things the nominal leader of the DNC would suddenly start caring about trans rights when he never cared about gay rights… is quite beyond me.
Same goes for Abortion.
Same goes for Climate change.
same goes for basically anything that is a progressive concern of the 40 year old “young voters”
Didn’t Biden change his position on gay marriage during the Obama administration? I’m totally fine if someone wants to change their position for the better. That shouldn’t be something we look down on.
He might give lip service; and I may be a bit off on the timing, but as late as the mid-90’s, he was voting against gay marriage.
The point I’m trying to make though, is that there were tools to win and they’re not talking them. Filibuster. Packing the supreme court. and it’s not just LGBTQ issues that are on the chopping block here… it’s, basically, everything. We’re facing a constitutional crisis because Biden refused to act… because he’s not got with the times and is still playing ‘good ol boy’ horsetrading politics against a team that’s determined to lie, cheat, and steal for every last scrap of power.
The mid 90’s was thirty years ago. That’s plenty of time to have a change of heart.
yeah, I recognize that. Abortion was in 2019, though. But I doubt very much he has had a change of heart, so much as, simply being, you know, a politician whose got somebody explaining where things are. Did you believe him when he said he had ‘the epiphany’ as a senior in highschool?
This is pretty true. It’s not because Biden is a bad person or out of touch, he comes from a very long ago generation that carries far different values than people who are younger.
he comes from a very long ago generation that carries far different values than people who are younger.
is that kind of the definition of out of touch, though? The world has changed around him. Just some quick for examples. the World Wide Web wasn’t first proposed as such until 1990, by Burners-Lee. Over half his life predates the modern internet as we know it. Friendster was in 2001, myspace in '03, facebook in '04. Social media as we understand the term has only existed for the last quarter of his life.
and lets not forget, that he’s been a politician for longer than millennials have been alive. He’s a very large part of how we came to be here. I will say this, he’s far less out of touch than Trump, or somebody like removed McConnel; they’re still stuck in that period of time were Fascism was “cool”… (well, for assholes.)
is that kind of the definition of out of touch, though?
Sure, if he still held the beliefs, but as you’ve pointed out he has come around on a lot of these things, making him not out of touch (in context).
I don’t know how old you are, but back in the 90s only a small percentage supported things like gay marriage. I remember in college becoming convinced that it should be an equal right for all, and white often getting pushback from liberals.
He was basically “in touch” with the dominant opinion back then, and is now.
The Clintons were against gay marriage too IIRC. Those generations took longer to change their position on the issue. And of course many Republicans never did change their position.
While true, that doesn’t really have anything to do with the filibuster.
it does have to do why they’re reluctant to break it, though, for any progressive cause.
Or any cause they expect us to believe they actually support.
they support the military industrial complex. Which is why Biden was so willing to expedite a certain genocidal maniac buying more bombs.
they support the military industrial complex.
They sure do. They don’t run on that because it’s unpopular. Democrats run on shit they never have any intention of implementing and then get in their own way to prevent it from happening.
Probably would not have even required getting rid of it. Go back to the days when people had to actively filibuster and I’m sure it would have been passed.
Dems are so infuriatingly bad at politics, it’s almost incomprehensible if not intentional.
Watch, they will get rid of the filibuster, but they’ll wait to do it until the end of this year, handing the repugs everything in the process.
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The new law bans gender-affirming surgeries and hormone therapies, and restricts mental health care for transgender individuals under 18. The measure also bans transgender girls and women from girls and women’s sports teams at both the K-12 and collegiate level.
Pretty sure his veto was just performative as he knew it would be overridden.
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Neat, just remove actual facts. Very nice.
You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into.
Conservative positions are always the same, “I want X to be true, therefore…” vs the natural, “Okay so starting from a blank slate… let’s be curious…”
I truly don’t understand the end-game for transgender folks. People are going to continue to be born with both sex organs. People are going to continue to transition between genders naturally (due to how gender works at a biological level). The line between male and female has and always will be blurry, and in many cases, nonexistant.
The natural outcome of this will be a default genderless society where people express the gender they want to be, which seems harmless to me, but from a conservative PoV people being happy in a way they don’t understand is the end of the world? It’s so unusual because their entire world view is, “Just let me do what I want” while simultaneously, “No, YOU can’t live how you want, JUST ME.” Its inherently conflicting. But once again, to see that one would have to have a world view based in reason. And as any reason-driven person has realized, conservative positions dissolve under scrutiny of reason (why Jon Stewart is so popular, his entire sctick was comedically applying reason to conservative behavior).
Revisiting the original statement. All the evidence in the world won’t change a conservative’s mind, because they prefer not to use their mind. Anger anger anger. Fear fear fear. Conformity conformity conformity. Those seem to be the only thoughts they are willing to let cross their mind.
A conservative, “It’s not normal!” The idea that “normal” is a social construct is not a thought they will allow to be processed. (Note they cannot use “natural” here because it is quite natural in many species to change gender.) Humans just happen to also share that trait, an idea they cannot seem to grasp.
I ramble, should have edited this a bit, but despite the poor writing I got a few ideas I wanted to get across. Apologies for the disjointed nature of this reply.
Banning cosmetic surgery on minors is probably not a bad idea but restricting mental health care is about what I’d expect from America.
That “cosmetic surgery” saves lives. It definitely did for my daughter’s friend. He was not doing so well before his top surgery, and now he’s so much happier. It’s a crazy difference.
the number of gender affirming surgeries on minors actually occuring each year is very small. looks like about 800 between 2019 and 2021. if a percentage of those cases could have been potential suicide deaths, then its likely worth the small risk of them regretting it later, especially since studies of gender affirming surgery show very low regret rates.
Laws like this one (as well as far right fear mongering in general) misrepresent that situation even more than you’d think. Only 800 minors in the country (out of ~80 million depending on how you count, so ~0.001% of all US minors) got any transition related surgeries over the course of 2 years. On top of that, there aren’t a lot of surgeons who do these surgeries, and some of them won’t operate on minors. So because of the limited number of surgeons, trans people often have to travel across at least state lines to get these surgeries, which is why none of this very small population of minors even got their surgeries in Ohio.
These laws are made all the more sinister when you realize half of their content outlaws things that aren’t even happening entirely for the sake of feeding into bigoted fear mongering and dehumanization - “they’re coming for your kids.”
The fact that you call gender-affirming care “cosmetic” shows you have no idea what you’re talking about.
