• Cowbee [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      Elaborate. You said it’s fascism, then said liberal democracy is a breeding ground for fascism. Which is it? Is all reactionary ideology fascism?

      This is what I mean. You have precisely no grounding in theoretical knowledge, and cannot understand the differences between a fascist movement that results from Neoliberalism, to Neoliberalism itself. That’s like saying a tadpole is an adult frog. Same species, Capitalist, but completely different stages.

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        10 months ago

        Elaborate

        They think so therefore they’re right. I’ve seen far too many ludicrous statements by people that clearly came before the evidence, not after it.

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        10 months ago

        fascism is a strictly regimented society in which every institution serves the state. under Mussolini the most obvious expression was corporatism and in fact that is the purest definition of fascism. sure, eco will talk about The racial stuff as Central but I don’t think Mussolini ever would. I think that he only saw that as part of strengthening the state just like almost every other country who was practicing eugenics at the time did, just like the United States.

        fascists come to power out of liberal democracies because liberal democracies are incapable of preventing them. All they have to do is pitch themselves as " third positionist" like clinton did.

        neoliberalism is fascism.

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          You explained what I already said: Neoliberalism creates the conditions for fascism. When one candidate is a Neoliberal, they leave the door open for fascism. When one candidate is a fascist, you’re straight jumping to fascism.

          Delaying the slide to fascism by voting neoliberal is the preferred course of action.

          You’re a fed, you have no knowledge of theory and exist purely to spoil the pot.

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            You called this person a fed a bunch of times. Fed jacketing is a big deal, and it’s even more of big deal on a platform that has NSA documents outlining its structure and weaknesses.

            Do you have any evidence for this accusation or are you just using it as a rhetorical device?

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              Rhetorically, though I’ve blocked them and decided to stop engaging. I agree, it is a serious accusation and I probably should’ve refrained from doing it, but they were acting both extremely reactionary and never once denied being a fed, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it was true.

              Still, fair point, I won’t baselessly call people feds if I disagree with them alone, thanks for bringing the NSA bit to my attention.

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            10 months ago

            A tiger cub is still a tiger. You can cuddle and pet a tiger cub. Even let your kids play with it. But a full grown tiger? That’s dangerous to have around, especially if it gets hungry.

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              Sure, so then there’s no difference in voting to be locked in a room alone with a tiger cub vs an adult tiger, got it.

              The tiger cub buys time to make meaningful grassroots change, even if it still continues the path to an eventual adult tiger.

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                  Nope. Obama didn’t result in fascism even after 8 years.

                  You’re a fed.

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                    obama ran out of bombs and deported more people than bush or trump.

                    in fact, at the outset of his presidency, he promised a new era of cooperation between business and government. that’s literally mussolini’s fascism.

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                    Obama didn’t result in fascism even after 8 years.

                    huh. do you remember 2015? chuds running around california knifing queer kids, marching in the street shouting for trump. then, a year later, guess who was elected.