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    11 months ago

    Violence against minority populations is vastly increased under republican governance

    citation needed, because Mike Brown was murdered under the deporter in chief, and Biden wrote the crime bill that clinton signed.

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        how does that violence compare to the violence of being sent to a country where you and your family are in danger? how does that violence compared to the violence of being locked up and a slave colony? how do you quantify this? I don’t believe it is quantifiable.

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          I said violence is higher under Republicans against minority populations, and gave proof. You are now saying that doesn’t matter and moving the goal posts.

          Touch grass.

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            you gave one expression of violence that may be higher under Republicans, but how do you quantify all violence?

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              Violence is bad. Higher rates of violent hate crimes is worse. Simple as.

              Democrats at least are socially progressive, even if their foreign policy and economic policies are reactionary. As such, it is safer to be queer or an ethnic minority under democrats. Republicans literally run on the platform of “brown people bad” and “immigrants are dangerous people stealing our jobs,” and as such under Republicans, hate crimes rise.

              The only way you can genuinely not know this is if you yourself are so privledged that it doesn’t impact you.

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                so it doesn’t matter how many families Obama broke up or deported because that’s not classes as a hate crime? absurd.

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                  It absolutely does matter, it’s just worse under Republicans. Both sides are bad, one is worse.

                  Go back to being a fed and spoiling the pot.

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                    it’s just worse under Republicans

                    you might want to check those stats.

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        Obama straight up murdered an American citizen for going to the wrong wedding. being Muslim is dangerous under Democrats.

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          That’s certainly a whattaboutism, considering Republicans have routinely bombed the fuck out of the Middle East as well. I gave you proof and you’re moving the goalposts.

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            I’m not moving the goal posts. they’re exactly where I planted them: you can’t quantify all violence, so you can’t say that it’s going to be higher under one administration or another against any group.

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              I can. I gave proof, higher rates of hate crimes is bad, and Bush obviously got the US involved in Iraq. US foreign policy is extremely Imperialist, yes, but the dems feign social progressivism while the reps include hatred of minorities as a part of their platform.

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                11 months ago

                you only gave statistics on what the fascist government classes as illegal violence.

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                  You’re genuinely a fed, you’ve read no theory and are incapable of materialist analysis. You aren’t a leftist, you’re stirring the pot. You’re a reactionary at best.

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                    You aren’t a leftist

                    if being a leftist means voting for the author of the crime bill, the author of the patriot act, someone who voted for every war he could, and the person who is building trump’s wall and still caging kids, then, no i’m not a leftist. but being a leftist doesn’t mean those things at all.