When Greg Poole was arrested and put in jail this past weekend, he said he was acting as a father and not as superintendent of the Barbers Hill Independent School District in Chambers County.
A Texas Department of Public Safety trooper has charged the Chambers County school superintendent with obstructing the investigation of an accident involving Poole’s 16-year-old son.
The teen flipped his father’s pickup and knocked over a utility pole about 3 a.m. Saturday on FM 565 near Cove, about 30 minutes east of Houston, authorities said.
The trooper arrested Poole for refusing to make his son available for questioning about the accident, the Texas Department of Public Safety said.
“Trooper Dunn asked him twice to produce his son, and he would not,” said Stephanie Davis, Texas Department of Public Safety spokeswoman in Beaumont. “He never informed the trooper where he could find his son.”
EDIT 2: Just to be clear, it’s not the trying to cover for his son that is the problem to look at. As a parent myself, I get trying to protect your children even if it’s poor judgement, everyone is allowed to make mistakes, child and parent alike.
What I CANNOT FUCKING ABIDE is the insane hypocrisy this fuck demonstrates through allowing exceptions to the LAWS for his child that he will defend and go to jail over, while demanding someone else’s child fall in line to school guidelines that are malleable and far less rigid in both application and enforcement than any legal criminality. RULES FOR THEE NOT FOR ME.
When you objectively consider all of the information, it looks a hell of a lot like run of the mill racial prejudice.
We’re on the same page for the ‘fuck this guy’ sentiment but I don’t specifically fault him for poor judgements made while trying to protect his kid. At the very least his son left the scene of an accident, but most likely his son was driving recklessly and/or drinking (drinking is the only remotely rational reasoning as to why a parent would go so far as to go to jail to keep the kid away from police in that scenario). Parents can be irrational when it comes to protecting their kids.
I fault him for being such a piece a shit that he will publicly in-a-goddamn-full-newspaper-ad demand conformity to malleable school rules of someone else’s kids, while breaking the law himself to keep his own child from having to conform to society’s legal rules.
Wow, a police officer in my town did this with his wife when she crashed into my mom while leaving a liquor store at noon. She did a blood alcohol test the next day, and that ruled she wasn’t drunk at the time of the accident.
You csn get arrested for not snitching on your own sons location?
You can get arrested for obstructing a police investigation. In this particular case, it appears that the father picked up and removed his son from the crime scene. Possibly also tampering with the crime scene. He has made himself an accessory to the crime after the fact. No different than a get-away driver for a bank robbery.
Also, I dont think holding a father responsible for the crimes of his son
The father isn’t being indicted for crashing a pickup truck. He’s being held for obstructing justice, which is an entirely different crime.
His son shouldn’t be on the road if he’s crashing a five-ton vehicle into a telephone pole. Hiding him in order to sober him up means putting him back out on the road to do this shit again.
I won’t fault anyone for not wanting to turn their kid over to police over property damage
When the same guy is pulling kids out of school for their haircuts, I will absolutely fault him. This guy has no concern for anyone outside of his immediate social circle. He’s immiserating children under the pretext of conformity, while keeping his drunk-driving son on the road to potentially kill another family with his reckless behavior.
Its easy to when you already have a reason to dislike them.
The contradiction between behaviors - one that’s strictly authoritarian for “conformity” sake and the other that’s hostile to basic traffic laws - illustrates a guy who has no business operating in an administrative capacity.
Bingo. If he kicked a kid out for locs and turned his son over to the authorities with a rousing “laws were broken, and I’m not asking for mercy” speech during sentencing, then he’s just an authoritarian-loving jerk and you can respect that even if you won’t grab a drink with him.
But this guy just likes to exert his white authority over black people. Not his innocent lilly-white drunk-driving son.
he’s just an authoritarian-loving jerk and you can respect that
I mean, I wouldn’t respect that either. If anything, I’d respect a guy who shielded his students from draconian municipal/state punishments for a fucking haircut and shielded his son from draconian municipal/state punishments for driving. But you don’t get to be superintendent by going “Soft On (Hair) Crime”.
But this guy just likes to exert his white authority over black people.
Or his rich authority over poor people. Although, in Houston, the de facto racial caste system makes it interchangeable.
I meant using his sons fuck up as an example of him being a bad person.
That’s where everyone is going off the fucking rails in different directions from my edit.
I get trying to protect your children as a parent. I’m a father myself and can fathom a reaction of trying to protect a child to the point of going to jail over something.
You entirely missed the point yourself when you misunderstood the issue as related to him being held responsible for the crimes of his son. He committed the crime of obstruction regardless of whatever crime his son was suspected of, but that’s not even the problem here.
What I CANNOT FUCKING ABIDE is the insane hypocrisy this fuck demonstrates through allowing exceptions to the LAWS for his child that he will defend and go to jail over, while demanding someone else’s child fall in line to school guidelines that are malleable and far less rigid in both application and enforcement than any legal criminality.
This all reads like some purebred racial prejudice fully baked into governing committees remaining alive and well in pockets of Texas even close to major cities. Not that it’s that different literally everywhere else that isn’t a major metro/suburb/college town.
Being American Requires Conformity to an Open Mind, Open Heart, Open Society, Open Cultures, Democratic Ideals, and Mutual Respect.
None of which this Superintendent Greg Poole demonstrates.
Edit: You know what, full on fuck Superintendent Greg Poole. Rules for thee, not for me:
May 1, 2008
https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/pasadena-news/article/Son-s-crash-has-Barbers-Hill-ISD-chief-in-hot-1790103.php
Key excerpts:
When Greg Poole was arrested and put in jail this past weekend, he said he was acting as a father and not as superintendent of the Barbers Hill Independent School District in Chambers County.
A Texas Department of Public Safety trooper has charged the Chambers County school superintendent with obstructing the investigation of an accident involving Poole’s 16-year-old son.
The teen flipped his father’s pickup and knocked over a utility pole about 3 a.m. Saturday on FM 565 near Cove, about 30 minutes east of Houston, authorities said.
The trooper arrested Poole for refusing to make his son available for questioning about the accident, the Texas Department of Public Safety said.
“Trooper Dunn asked him twice to produce his son, and he would not,” said Stephanie Davis, Texas Department of Public Safety spokeswoman in Beaumont. “He never informed the trooper where he could find his son.”
EDIT 2: Just to be clear, it’s not the trying to cover for his son that is the problem to look at. As a parent myself, I get trying to protect your children even if it’s poor judgement, everyone is allowed to make mistakes, child and parent alike.
What I CANNOT FUCKING ABIDE is the insane hypocrisy this fuck demonstrates through allowing exceptions to the LAWS for his child that he will defend and go to jail over, while demanding someone else’s child fall in line to school guidelines that are malleable and far less rigid in both application and enforcement than any legal criminality. RULES FOR THEE NOT FOR ME.
When you objectively consider all of the information, it looks a hell of a lot like run of the mill racial prejudice.
Kid was obviously drunk, that’s why his dad kept him from the cops, so he would have time to sober tf up for the breathalyzer.
Castrate people like this.*
*allegedly
We’re on the same page for the ‘fuck this guy’ sentiment but I don’t specifically fault him for poor judgements made while trying to protect his kid. At the very least his son left the scene of an accident, but most likely his son was driving recklessly and/or drinking (drinking is the only remotely rational reasoning as to why a parent would go so far as to go to jail to keep the kid away from police in that scenario). Parents can be irrational when it comes to protecting their kids.
I fault him for being such a piece a shit that he will publicly in-a-goddamn-full-newspaper-ad demand conformity to malleable school rules of someone else’s kids, while breaking the law himself to keep his own child from having to conform to society’s legal rules.
Look, we’d all do the same for our kids and more, you know that, it’s the hypocrisy that’s the problem obviously, but I know we already agree.
Wow, a police officer in my town did this with his wife when she crashed into my mom while leaving a liquor store at noon. She did a blood alcohol test the next day, and that ruled she wasn’t drunk at the time of the accident.
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You can get arrested for obstructing a police investigation. In this particular case, it appears that the father picked up and removed his son from the crime scene. Possibly also tampering with the crime scene. He has made himself an accessory to the crime after the fact. No different than a get-away driver for a bank robbery.
The father isn’t being indicted for crashing a pickup truck. He’s being held for obstructing justice, which is an entirely different crime.
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If a minor is being protected by his legal guardian over an illegal act, yes the legal guardian has responsibility.
His son shouldn’t be on the road if he’s crashing a five-ton vehicle into a telephone pole. Hiding him in order to sober him up means putting him back out on the road to do this shit again.
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When the same guy is pulling kids out of school for their haircuts, I will absolutely fault him. This guy has no concern for anyone outside of his immediate social circle. He’s immiserating children under the pretext of conformity, while keeping his drunk-driving son on the road to potentially kill another family with his reckless behavior.
The contradiction between behaviors - one that’s strictly authoritarian for “conformity” sake and the other that’s hostile to basic traffic laws - illustrates a guy who has no business operating in an administrative capacity.
Bingo. If he kicked a kid out for locs and turned his son over to the authorities with a rousing “laws were broken, and I’m not asking for mercy” speech during sentencing, then he’s just an authoritarian-loving jerk and you can respect that even if you won’t grab a drink with him.
But this guy just likes to exert his white authority over black people. Not his innocent lilly-white drunk-driving son.
I mean, I wouldn’t respect that either. If anything, I’d respect a guy who shielded his students from draconian municipal/state punishments for a fucking haircut and shielded his son from draconian municipal/state punishments for driving. But you don’t get to be superintendent by going “Soft On (Hair) Crime”.
Or his rich authority over poor people. Although, in Houston, the de facto racial caste system makes it interchangeable.
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I found the dumbass, it was mob.
That’s where everyone is going off the fucking rails in different directions from my edit.
I get trying to protect your children as a parent. I’m a father myself and can fathom a reaction of trying to protect a child to the point of going to jail over something.
You entirely missed the point yourself when you misunderstood the issue as related to him being held responsible for the crimes of his son. He committed the crime of obstruction regardless of whatever crime his son was suspected of, but that’s not even the problem here.
What I CANNOT FUCKING ABIDE is the insane hypocrisy this fuck demonstrates through allowing exceptions to the LAWS for his child that he will defend and go to jail over, while demanding someone else’s child fall in line to school guidelines that are malleable and far less rigid in both application and enforcement than any legal criminality.
This all reads like some purebred racial prejudice fully baked into governing committees remaining alive and well in pockets of Texas even close to major cities. Not that it’s that different literally everywhere else that isn’t a major metro/suburb/college town.