Sex work needs legislation and job regulations like every other job. That’s what helps sex workers the most and reduces sex trafficking. Porn industry the same. We should stop treating it any different than other jobs. The time to be silence about it are long gone, everyone has Internet and most consum internet pornography. Hiding and criminalizing makes things worse, always has.
I dont think selling your body is like any other job…
Imagine going to work every day and doing porn. I can’t really see how that makes you a healthy individual psychologically and emotionally. Personally I think it’s pretty disgusting, all of it, and absolutely a gateway into a very sad, dark lifestyle.
I worked 5 years at a job that sucked the soul out of me as I devoted all available energy towards making sure I never got laid off, developing an entirely seperate personality that was better geared towards sales and customer satisfaction at the cost of my self-respect and personal relationships, dreading every day as though it would be the one to finally push me over the edge and convince me to end it all.
Work isn’t meant to make you healthy. The two often have a negative relationship with each other, in fact. Work is work. Let’s not pretend we’re above sex workers just because we’re not on camera while we get fucked.
Meh at least it’s a skill. Most of the “engineers” I deal with are corporate shits who have no skillset whatsoever. And take a preverse pride in not having one.
Ok that doesn’t sound like a good job, but how is that an argument that sex work is just like any other job? Have you ever had a good job? I hope you have, so you know the difference.
You need to escape your own perspective. Your comments, while seemingly well-intended, come across far more egotistical than I believe you realize.
You clearly place a lot of value on your thoughts and views, but then you don’t seem to realize that this perspective restricts you behind the lens of your own mind’s limitations (and biases). Most of the people you will encounter in your life do not think like you.
TLDR, You need to spend more time envisioning the world through the eyes of others, erasing your own existence and views. It would be enlightening if you succeeded.*
Note, some people are literally incapable of changing perspective due to how their brain functions, if that is you, please disregard.
You are either trolling, or need more time to develop as a person.
You are so locked into your own ideas that you don’t seem to realize that your ideas are subjective. You are overvaluing your own, extremely-limited perspective. Pause for a moment and do a thought experiment (everyone should do this from time to time). Say, “What if I am wrong about everything?” then just sit with that and work through what it would mean. No one can do this for you, so you may go about it a different way, but the general idea is to think, without trapping the thoughts in your web of biases.
You are responding to me as-if I talked about something I never mentioned. So not only are your own perceptions flawed, but when you speak with us, you don’t seem to hear what we are saying.
For energy reasons I can’t engage with you all day, but I hope you’ll give it some thought.
Final question, do you find it odd that in our discourse about conceptualizing, you brought up sex work? Why? That was someone else you were having that discussion with. Not me. I am talking about thinking. Ask yourself, “Do I engage with what the person is saying, or do I engage with what I tell myself they must be saying?” I suspect the latter, given our correspondences as example.
My 2 cents, you never actually specified what makes sex work any different from a “normal job”. All you offered was your opinion on the work itself, and a false equivalence about the health of the worker correlating to the work they do. Your ego is blinding you to the fact that your thesis has not been justified, and it’s also telling you you’re inherently correct due to your own preconceived ideas behind the work.
The only real difference I can think of between sex work or contract work or office work or manual work…is that the sex one has the word “sex” in it. That word is very loaded though, and we all have very different emotional reactions to it, especially with how it relates to making an income in a broken society. That difference doesn’t make sex work unique though. It does make it a prime target for folks like yourself to treat it like it’s different and worse. You really have to zoom out of yourself to put us all in the same bucket, and that’s not an easy thing to do, to be fair, so it’s not hard to imagine why you might have an opinion like yours.
The people I’ve known in sex work tend to avoid working with those they don’t want to.
And as someone who has slept with people I didn’t find attractive with no money involved, it’s not the end of the world. If I thought I could make a living doing that, I probably would, and I would absolutely refuse service to anyone who repulsed me or that I despised.
I see, so I’m assuming the same goes for regular actors? And musicians? And basically any performer ofcourse? Oh and also anyone who does manual labour because you are literally renting out your body for that. Well, and technically anyone with an office job too because they are still renting out their time.
Having to work for a living is already an extremely sad and dark lifestyle. It’s inherently monstrous and inhumane, and antithetical to being a healthy individual psychologically, emotionally, and physically.
Compared to that, any hypothetical negative effects from sex work are as irrelevant as spitting into the sea.
And, frankly, sex work seems healthier, easier, and less emotionally taxing than most other alternatives, buck for buck, so if you’re gonna get fucked anyway it might as well be non-metaphorically.
Having to work for a living is already an extremely sad and dark lifestyle. It’s inherently monstrous and inhumane, and antithetical to being a healthy individual psychologically, emotionally, and physically.
Can you elaborate on this? This seems to be a popular notion with some people but I just can’t grasp the reasoning behind it
What’s the difference between selling your body to be used and abused, and doing sex work? Either way, you’re selling your physical form and mental energies to someone else, but at least with sex work you get to get off.
Sex work needs legislation and job regulations like every other job. That’s what helps sex workers the most and reduces sex trafficking. Porn industry the same. We should stop treating it any different than other jobs. The time to be silence about it are long gone, everyone has Internet and most consum internet pornography. Hiding and criminalizing makes things worse, always has.
I dont think selling your body is like any other job…
Imagine going to work every day and doing porn. I can’t really see how that makes you a healthy individual psychologically and emotionally. Personally I think it’s pretty disgusting, all of it, and absolutely a gateway into a very sad, dark lifestyle.
I worked 5 years at a job that sucked the soul out of me as I devoted all available energy towards making sure I never got laid off, developing an entirely seperate personality that was better geared towards sales and customer satisfaction at the cost of my self-respect and personal relationships, dreading every day as though it would be the one to finally push me over the edge and convince me to end it all.
Work isn’t meant to make you healthy. The two often have a negative relationship with each other, in fact. Work is work. Let’s not pretend we’re above sex workers just because we’re not on camera while we get fucked.
Meh at least it’s a skill. Most of the “engineers” I deal with are corporate shits who have no skillset whatsoever. And take a preverse pride in not having one.
Ok that doesn’t sound like a good job, but how is that an argument that sex work is just like any other job? Have you ever had a good job? I hope you have, so you know the difference.
Why do you think that sex workers can’t enjoy their job?
“If you love what you do you never work a day in your life” she said moments before getting gently slapped by a giant dong
Because nobody wants to have sex with ugly people, or people you despise, and who treat you like shit.
That’s the simplest way I can express it.
You need to escape your own perspective. Your comments, while seemingly well-intended, come across far more egotistical than I believe you realize.
You clearly place a lot of value on your thoughts and views, but then you don’t seem to realize that this perspective restricts you behind the lens of your own mind’s limitations (and biases). Most of the people you will encounter in your life do not think like you.
TLDR, You need to spend more time envisioning the world through the eyes of others, erasing your own existence and views. It would be enlightening if you succeeded.*
Yeah I actually don’t understand why it’s egotistical to think sex work is not like a normal job. Seems perfectly natural to me.
Why do you think it is egotistical? Maybe if you explain, I will see the errors of my thinking.
You are either trolling, or need more time to develop as a person.
You are so locked into your own ideas that you don’t seem to realize that your ideas are subjective. You are overvaluing your own, extremely-limited perspective. Pause for a moment and do a thought experiment (everyone should do this from time to time). Say, “What if I am wrong about everything?” then just sit with that and work through what it would mean. No one can do this for you, so you may go about it a different way, but the general idea is to think, without trapping the thoughts in your web of biases.
You are responding to me as-if I talked about something I never mentioned. So not only are your own perceptions flawed, but when you speak with us, you don’t seem to hear what we are saying.
For energy reasons I can’t engage with you all day, but I hope you’ll give it some thought.
Final question, do you find it odd that in our discourse about conceptualizing, you brought up sex work? Why? That was someone else you were having that discussion with. Not me. I am talking about thinking. Ask yourself, “Do I engage with what the person is saying, or do I engage with what I tell myself they must be saying?” I suspect the latter, given our correspondences as example.
My 2 cents, you never actually specified what makes sex work any different from a “normal job”. All you offered was your opinion on the work itself, and a false equivalence about the health of the worker correlating to the work they do. Your ego is blinding you to the fact that your thesis has not been justified, and it’s also telling you you’re inherently correct due to your own preconceived ideas behind the work.
The only real difference I can think of between sex work or contract work or office work or manual work…is that the sex one has the word “sex” in it. That word is very loaded though, and we all have very different emotional reactions to it, especially with how it relates to making an income in a broken society. That difference doesn’t make sex work unique though. It does make it a prime target for folks like yourself to treat it like it’s different and worse. You really have to zoom out of yourself to put us all in the same bucket, and that’s not an easy thing to do, to be fair, so it’s not hard to imagine why you might have an opinion like yours.
Hate fucking is actually kinda fun
The people I’ve known in sex work tend to avoid working with those they don’t want to.
And as someone who has slept with people I didn’t find attractive with no money involved, it’s not the end of the world. If I thought I could make a living doing that, I probably would, and I would absolutely refuse service to anyone who repulsed me or that I despised.
I see, so I’m assuming the same goes for regular actors? And musicians? And basically any performer ofcourse? Oh and also anyone who does manual labour because you are literally renting out your body for that. Well, and technically anyone with an office job too because they are still renting out their time.
Who cares what you think though.
Having to work for a living is already an extremely sad and dark lifestyle. It’s inherently monstrous and inhumane, and antithetical to being a healthy individual psychologically, emotionally, and physically.
Compared to that, any hypothetical negative effects from sex work are as irrelevant as spitting into the sea.
And, frankly, sex work seems healthier, easier, and less emotionally taxing than most other alternatives, buck for buck, so if you’re gonna get fucked anyway it might as well be non-metaphorically.
Can you elaborate on this? This seems to be a popular notion with some people but I just can’t grasp the reasoning behind it
What’s the difference between selling your body to be used and abused, and doing sex work? Either way, you’re selling your physical form and mental energies to someone else, but at least with sex work you get to get off.