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      6 months ago

      Did I say capitalism doesn’t suck? As far as I can tell, I, in fact, didn’t. I generally like communistic and anarchistic ideas, but not the methods USSR used

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            6 months ago

            “Both” implies there are 2. Fortunately, there aren’t

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                6 months ago

                IMO, communism, as I understand it, actually doesn’t, yet achieving it through socialism (as USSR tried) is not the way, instead going the collectivist anarchism route and straight up ditching the vertical power structures is better.

                Like when you keep states, they start protecting themselves/oppressing othets and turn into a class of their own, thus eliminating the possibility of them self-disdolving when the society becomes classless.

                Although it’s not that I’ve read a whole lot on the topic, so it may be much more complicated than that

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                  In a vacuum, that sounds great. But it totally fails to recognize the existence of imperialist capitalist powers that will fucking destroy you if you try that on a scale that gets in their way. The USSR looked the way it did not because of what they were trying to build, but because of what was necessary to prevent their destruction. Once capitalism is gone, it’s a very different story

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                    Is it necessary to threaten them, tho? Just showing ppl around better living is possible while not calling yourself a scary communist and not making direct moves towards converting the other countries (and instead being generally friendly) may work, I hope (and then said others try the same stuff on their own). The only problem in that case is the possibility of being attacked before achieving moderately well self-sufficiency, tho, and I’m not sure how high it is

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          Not sure what you mean here. 'Cause so far it’s about encouraging others to overthrow the govt in hopes of establishing a communistic paradise and not why I’m prohibited to think USSR in particular sucked.

          Although mb smth along the lines of said stuff being “inevitable” which my pacifistic ass still doesn’t agree to. Linking to a particular message can help