- cross-posted to:
- politicalmemes@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- politicalmemes@lemmy.world
I don’t like Biden either, but anyone with half a brain knows there are two choices in the 2020 election. If we had a sane voting system, voting third party might be worth it, but as it stands, no one but you knows your favorite candidate exists and unless you want to become their campaign manager that will still be true in November. Even if you did, and even if you convinced two thirds of the people who would otherwise have voted for Biden to vote for your chosen candidate instead, Trump would still win because half the country voted for him and your guy only got a third. If you vote third party you might as well stay home.
Not voting isn’t going to stop the genocide in Gaza. The US will continue to funnel them arms no matter which candidate wins this November. Trump practically campaigns on how much he hates the Jews and he’s publicly told Israel to “finish up their war”. He’ll also make life a living hell for anyone who isn’t a straight cisgender male back here at home.
A vote for a candidate is not an endorsement of them or their policies, it’s a statement that you like their policies more than the other guy’s, and “sticking it to liberals” and “refusing to support genocide” (that’s not what voting for Biden is doing, by the way – a vote for either candidate is a vote for genocide and a vote for neither is an endorsement of both) is not more important than keeping the furthest right politician America has ever seen out of office.
How incredibly privileged do you have to be to see an entire national election as what will happen in the Middle East and ignore Trump’s campaign promises to wipe transgender Americans off the map, and further, to not realize that the same thing will happen in the Middle East regardless of which candidate wins?
I hate Biden as much as every other leftist here. But I’ll still vote for him because Trump is worse. If there’s a single bone in your body that cares about the lives of your trans friends you will too.
That’s pure prediction, and additionally assumes Americans should decide for the world who is in power, rather than the exploited third world determining for themselves.
The US is not maleable. It serves the interests of the Bourgoisie, which is why the US gov has been getting more right wing despite rising popularity of leftists.
Its not prediction, russia repeatedly has called Ukraine a stepping stone. I would appreciate it if it werent.
It is maleable, if it werent, the right wouldnt expe d the dollars and effort it does into keeping voters from casting their votes.
And we got biden over trump, as u said, the youth is more left, and the old generation is dying.
Mutual aid, direct action, votes for biden to keep the fascist out, and solidarity.
It is prediction, and you completely brushed aside your inner bias when I said America should cease their Imperialism and let the third world decide for themselves what they want.
It is not malleable, Democrats are right wing as well, just not fascist. You cannot get leftist change by voting for right wingers.
Biden is not left. He’s not as far-right as Trump, of course, but even if Biden were an immortal dictator America would never move left. There are more leftists now, yes, but not in office.
Mutual Aid and Direct Action are great, but you seem to be under the mistaken impression that Biden winning is leftward movement, and not right wing stagnation.
I say this as someone who voted for Biden and likely will again, read Reform or Revolution.
The crux of my arguments on here remains,
Direct action, mutual aid, voting, and solidarity. Pursue as many of the options as u can, but it is naive to pretend u wont have a much harder time under an open fascist.