• feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      I’ve been to Israel a number of times and have several good friends there. I don’t know what to do, really. They would be the ones protesting against Netanyahu, rather than the ones raving in the way of an aid convoy.

      The first thing I said after the attacks last October, other than “are my friends okay”, was literally “fuck, the response is going to be completely disproportionate”. They’ve got a fucking horrible government and there’s an undercurrent of nasty, nationalist Israelis, including literal Jewish supremacists.

      I’m not an antisemite - my best friends genuinely are Jewish, that’s not a smokescreen. I’ve been shown more kindness by Jews in my life than by my own family. But I’d say, on balance, I am anti those particular semites. And I think a large percentage of Jews also are. I know my friends will casually say things about the ultra-orthodox community that I definitely can’t repeat.

      • SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works
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        9 months ago

        More Jews live outside Israel than in Israel. Being against the Israeli government doesn’t make you an antisemite.

      • prole@sh.itjust.works
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        9 months ago

        The “response” has been disproportionate for 60+ years.

        At what point are they no longer “responding” and move on to become the aggressors? Because the balance of power there shifted a very long time ago.

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        9 months ago

        They’ve got a fucking horrible government and there’s an undercurrent of nasty, nationalist Israelis, including literal Jewish supremacists.

        Let me just say: It’s not an undercurrent. The right wing in Israel has been dominant for a long time and is growing. I understand you want to distinguish yourself from Antisemites, but their government is accurately representing their constituents. It’s just that more than half their constituents see nothing wrong with genociding Muslims for Lebensraum.

        • Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          9 months ago

          70% of eligible voters voted.
          the current government’s parties were voted in by 49.5% of those voters.
          out of those, 14.13% were ultra-orthodox parties who always go with bibi because he gives them everything they want. about half of those are non-zionist.