• Cowbee [he/him]
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    9 months ago

    Leftists do organize, liberals are just the most entrenched party.

    Biden is not 80% success, if he was then there would be genuine Socialism in the United States.

    Being a leftist is frustrating because liberals never concede anything yet feel entitled to votes because they aren’t as evil as the other guy.

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      9 months ago

      How did how do they get entrenched? Is it just magic? Or maybe, they’re that much better at organizing which leads to entrenchment.

      Why on Earth with 80% success from a liberal be socialism that makes no sense.

      You people have no idea how far the Democratic party has moved in the last 20 years alone. You people have no concept of what it was like in the 90s. On so many issues today the Democratic party without question supports things that the Democratic party back then was way too conservative to do. It’s about incremental change. Short of violent revolution, which I am not ruling out, that’s the only way to get change. Only.

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        9 months ago

        Because liberalism is beneficial to Capitalists, money flows towards them. Leftists have been forced to organize at grassroots levels against the powers of Capital, while liberals have had the pleasure of being bought and paid for by Capitalists.

        80% success for a leftist would be Socialism. Of course Biden is a liberal, I don’t give a shit if he’s successful as a liberal, I care about genuine improvements in material conditions for the Proletariat. Biden hasn’t been 100% bad, but he’s been far from leftist.

        Grassroots movement is how you get change. In the last 20 years, liberals are no closer to emancipation of the Proletariat.