• BrooklynMan
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    2 years ago

    if the source is biased, logically, so would be its contents.

    but nobody is accusing you of thinking logically.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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      2 years ago

      Every source is inherently biased, there is no such thing as an unbiased source. It’s incredible that grown ass adults don’t understand this. But nobody is accusing you of thinking logically.

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        Whataboutism

        Whataboutism or whataboutery (as in “what about…?”) denotes in a pejorative sense a procedure in which a critical question or argument is not answered or discussed, but retorted with a critical counter-question which expresses a counter-accusation. From a logical and argumentative point of view it is considered a variant of the tu-quoque pattern (Latin ‘you too’, term for a counter-accusation), which is a subtype of the ad-hominem argument.[1][2][3][4]

        The communication intent is often to distract from the content of a topic (red herring). The goal may also be to question the justification for criticism and the legitimacy, integrity, and fairness of the critic, which can take on the character of discrediting the criticism, which may or may not be justified. Common accusations include double standards, and hypocrisy, but it can also be used to relativize criticism of one’s own viewpoints or behaviors. (A: “Long-term unemployment often means poverty in Germany.” B: “And what about the starving in Africa and Asia?”).[5] Related manipulation and propaganda techniques in the sense of rhetorical evasion of the topic are the change of topic and false balance (bothsidesism).

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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          2 years ago

          Yes, that is a form of a tu quoque fallacy western liberals like to use to shut down criticism of the west and create a double moral standard.

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            2 years ago

            “i know you are but what am i?” is not an effective form of argument.

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              Yeah, that’s not the argument being made, but I guess we’ve already established that your reading comprehension needs work.

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                Moving the Goalposts

                Moving the goalposts is an informal fallacy in which evidence presented in response to a specific claim is dismissed and some other (often greater) evidence is demanded. That is, after an attempt has been made to score a goal, the goalposts are moved to exclude the attempt. The problem with changing the rules of the game is that the meaning of the result is changed, too.

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                    Sealioning

                    Sealioning (also sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity (“I’m just trying to have a debate”), and feigning ignorance of the subject matter. It may take the form of “incessant, bad-faith invitations to engage in debate”, and has been likened to a denial-of-service attack targeted at human beings. The term originated with a 2014 strip of the webcomic Wondermark by David Malki, which The Independent called “the most apt description of Twitter you’ll ever see”.