So, I’m kinda new to this Lemmy thingy and the fediverse. I like the fediverse from a technological standpoint. However, I think that, if we gain more and more traction, Lemmy (and by extend the entire fediverse) is a GDPR clusterfuck waiting to happen. With big and expensive repercussions…

Why? Well, according to GDPR, all personal data from EU users must remain in the EU. And personal data goes really far. Even an IP-address is personal data. An e-mail address is personal data. I don’t think there is jurisprudence regarding usernames, so that might be up for discussion.

Since the entire goal of the fediverse is “transporting” all data to all servers inside the ActivityPub/fediverse world, the data of a EU member will be transported all over the place. Resulting in a giant GDPR breach. And I have no idea who will be held responsible… The people hosting an instance? The developers of Lemmy? The developers of ActivityPub?

Large corporations are getting hefty fines for GDPR breaches. And since Lemmy is growing, Lemmy might be “in the spotlights” in the upcoming years.

I don’t like GDPR, and I’m all for the technological setup of the fediverse. However, I definitely can see a “competitor” (that is currently very large but loosing ground quickly) having a clear eye out to eliminate the competition…

What do y’all thing about this?

  • infamousbelgianOPEnglish
    6·
    2 years ago

    Is it? I read somewhere that data effectively gets “copied” to the different instances? But that might be wrong info :p

    • hardypart@feddit.deEnglish
      2·
      2 years ago

      You’re right. If someone from feddit.de subscribes to a lemmy.world community, the entire content of that community is going to be copied to the feddit.de server and that’s the exact issue OP is referring to.

      • Oliver@lemmy.caEnglish
        2·
        2 years ago

        the entire content of that community is going to be copied to the feddit.de server

        That’s not true. The text is being copied, the media is not. Anyone, anywhere in the world, can put tracking pixels on Lemmy posts at any time to log user data. Regardless of the instance used to read it.

        • hardypart@feddit.deEnglish
          1·
          2 years ago

          OK, remove the media from my “everything” statement. The rest is still lots of personal data that is being copied to foreign instances.

      • mkulima@baraza.africaEnglish
        11·
        2 years ago

        Then it should be the responsibility of the EU people to avoid joining the fediverse. I do not see a practical way to align with GDPR. The effort is non-trivial and the rewards are extremely minimal.

        From your perspective, what should be the way out?

        • hardypart@feddit.deEnglish
          3·
          2 years ago

          Then it should be the responsibility of the EU people to avoid joining the fediverse.

          The instances are providing their services in the EU, so it’s legally up to them to comply with the GDPR.

          From your perspective, what should be the way out?

          Honestly, no idea. I’m not even sure if Lemmy in its current shape violates the GDPR in the first place, but if I were the admin of a large feddit instance in the EU I would make sure to get advise from a GDPR consultant.