• superbirra@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    except you speak for you and no one else, there is no “we”, and a lot of ppl enjoy it

    • Dr. Moose@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      I speak for society as a whole. People enjoy dog fights and other unethical and toxic entertainment yet that’s not an excuse to allow it. We’re better off without it objectively speaking.

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          4 months ago

          Both promote suffering for entertainment. In both cases that means both contestants and societal impact.

          In dog fights, dogs get killed and people seeing them normalized get desensitized towards animal cruelty.

          In pageants, models are incentivized to starve themselves and to subject themselves to cosmetic surgery, and people seeing that normalized feel like they need to do the same because of body image issues.

          I think the comparison is pretty spot on.

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            4 months ago

            This is the first I’ve heard of the cosmetic surgery! I’m surprised they don’t treat that like steroids in major sporting competitions.

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          4 months ago

          How? I genuinely believe there’s no real value in shallow events like this. I’m from Thailand and their kinda big deal here but nothing positive ever came from one other than some memes. Fortunately pageants are in extreme decline and they’ll be gone without any particular effort from us.