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    And all of that can be done either publicly or at a worker-owned maintenance organization. None of that needed a landlord.

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      I think that the broader point is, a proper landlord, one that actually has investment in the land they own and maintain, can allow for a more holistic approach to any given problem. If one entity is aware of the nuances of the situation, they’re better able to get things moving in all of the little codependent issues that may arise.

      None of this excuses shitty capitalist landlords who just buy up shit and rent it for a profit. And yes, it could be handled by the person living there instead of a landlord. Or government approved… Maintenance overseers for each individual property?

      There are a myriad of ways to approach the problem besides a landlord, but the point still stands that having someone with a broader knowledge of the individual property can make repairs a ton easier.

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        The thing is, that managerial position has absolutely no reason to require ownership. The home can be personally owned and a local worker-owned firm can be contracted, or it can be maintained by a local public manager.

        The point the original commenter was making was that somehow nobody decrying landlords had put this into thought, and that Capitalism is therefore the correct answer. You can follow their comment chains, its pretty blatant. They end up calling the Worker firm a glorified HOA and then stick their head in the sand.

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          I don’t agree with all of their statements, particularly the glorified HOA bit (I didn’t see that on this specific thread, probably elsewhere they posted), merely trying to point out that some of their statements are accurate.

          I’m pretty sure I carved out several possibilities for non-landlord people who can fill out the same role. I’m just saying there’s a bit of truth to having someone actually knowledgeable about the specific property facilitating maintenance.

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            I get that, my point is that nobody thinks housing doesn’t need managers, despite the original commenter pretending that’s the common stance of people decrying landlords.

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              To be fair to the original commentor, it’s pretty common for it to just be tackled piecemeal.

              I rent, and just had to deal with an overflow valve leaking. There ended up being several other tangentially related things that needed to be addressed. If I was managing that, as the person who actually lives there, I’d have been able to inform the contractors of all of this stuff ahead of time. Instead I have a 255 character box to send off to some nameless person who has never seen the property in all likelihood, who will call the cheapest contractor available, and draw a 2 hour repair into a 2 week affair.

              This is why I stressed that we need people INVESTED IN the properties they’re trying to maintain, not just have them be another line in a spreadsheet.