Perhaps you’ve noticed. We have reached a tipping point in the country over tipping.

To tip or not to tip has led to Shakespearean soliloquies by customers explaining why they refuse to tip for certain things.

During the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, customers were grateful for those who seemingly risked their safety so we could get groceries, order dinner or anything that made our lives feel normal. A nice tip was the least we could do to show gratitude.

But now that we are out about and back to normal, the custom of tipping for just about everything has somehow remained; and customers are upset.

A new study from Pew Research shows most American adults say tipping is expected in more places than it was five years ago, and there’s no real consensus about how tipping should work.

  • queermunist she/her
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    8 months ago

    Okay, but they don’t have a living wage, so you don’t get to have that option. Either tip or stop using those services.

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      8 months ago

      What fucking conversation do you think you’re a part of? Because you’re clearly not reading my comments before responding to them.

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        8 months ago

        You said customers should never feel obligated or ashamed. Never. I definitely feel ashamed of using these services and feel obligated to tip generously, and you should too.

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          8 months ago

          So we’re in agreement then? Why are you lighting me up when we’re clearly on the same side? You need to learn to recognize an ally and save the anger for someone who deserves it, or you’ll find yourself without any allies.

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            8 months ago

            I don’t know if we are, actually.

            Do you still use these services? And if you do, do you tip?

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              8 months ago

              Yes, I go to restaurants every so often, and I always tip and tip well. I refuse to punish the workers for the broken system. That doesn’t degrade my argument that they should be paid a living wage instead of having to rely on tips at all.

              When I say customers should not feel ashamed or obligated to tip, I mean that the system should change in such a way that tips are not expected and workers are paid a living wage. The system is not currently like that, we get that. Snapping back at me over the way the system IS when we both agree on how it should be is being intentionally argumentative for no reason.

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                8 months ago

                Then we are in agreement. I read your comment as unconditional i.e. customers should never be pressured to tip, regardless of the wages of the worker.

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          You’re either intentionally being obtuse or are just plain stupid. Customers SHOULDNT be in a position of being forced to tip or be ashamed for normal acitivitues. Absolutely required tipping should not be a thing. It should be optional. It doesn’t matter what the current culture is, because that’s not the conversation. That’s the point.

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            8 months ago

            But they are in a position of being ashamed because those workers need tips. Shoulda woulda coulda, I don’t like it when people decide to not tip as some kind of political protest against tipping.

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              8 months ago

              Reading comprehension was never your strong suit huh? Either that or you failed in debate class. You have the worst debate tactics I’ve seen in a long time.

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                8 months ago

                I’m just a stupid piece of shit and should kill myself. Tell me more about how I’m a failure and I don’t know how to read. Unf I’m almost there~

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                  Chill, please, you definitely shouldn’t kill yourself. Ain’t big deal if someone in the internet is wrong

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                    Dogpiling doesn’t feel good. Being told I can’t read, can’t debate, and am a failure doesn’t feel good. I got angry.

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                    8 months ago

                    You definitely said I can’t read and can’t debate and am a failure. Bully shit.

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              Let’s never talk about changing anything because it’s not the current climate then, yeah? There’s no point in discussing change at all, clearly, since it doesn’t apply to specifically exactly what’s currently going on. Truly you are a paragon of our time