• SterbenDeathGun
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    About the lease thing I agree, but Steam didn’t really remove any games, if they did was because the original devs decided so.

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      1 year ago

      I never said steam removes games but they absolutely do against the developers wishes.

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        1 year ago

        Against developers wishes? Could you tell when this has happened before?

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            From what I can read, the dev himself removed the game because of “stress”. Steam has previously removed the game for copyright reasons, but readmitted it afterward.

            The stress was due to the huge popularity the game got thanks to YouTube and Twitch.

            Rejecting is different than removing.

            I don’t know what the problem is between the Steam Store and itch, but your Google search confirmed what I just said: Steam never removed a game just because; they removed games that break copyright rules or their TOS.

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              I never said “just because” in fact, I never said, “Steam removes games”. You didn’t even say “just because”. You said “Steam doesn’t remove games against the developer’s wishes.” which is entirely wrong as you now admit and moved the goal posts. This whole thing is a silly argument perpetuated by you.

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                Just miscommunication then. All game platforms did that, so I don’t understand your point on bringing this up. Sony, removed Mobile Games from PsVita. Apple removed Fortnight from AppStore (and countless other apps). Probably Microsoft did that too.

                I don’t know what you’re complaining about.

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                  You brought up that steam removes games. I said that Valve is just going after money like they always have. Like every other game company. You said valve has a more pro user stance, I brought up a bunch of examples how they don’t really have a pro user stance, you said yeah but they don’t remove games against developer wishes. I said that I never said anything about removing games but they totally do, as we’ve proven.

                  So I’m not really complaining about anything. I’m just not holding Valve up on a pedestal and saying they aren’t like every other company out there.

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                    There are other instances where Valve is very pro users.

                    1. Return policy: you can return any game, if you play it less than 1 hour.
                    2. Valve works with iFixit to distribute parts and repair guides for the Steam Deck.
                    3. When Steam Deck launched, Valve replaced many Steam Decks devices, even if it was literally an user’s misuse or mistake.