President Joe Biden is arguing that “there is something dangerous happening in America” as he revives his warnings that Donald Trump and his allies represent an existential threat to the country’s democratic institutions.

There is an extremist movement that does not share the basic beliefs of our democracy. The MAGA movement,” Biden says in excerpts of the speech Thursday in Arizona, released in advance by the White House, referring Trump’s Make America Great Again slogan.

Although voting in the 2024 Republican primary doesn’t begin for months, Biden’s focus reflects Trump’s status as the undisputed frontrunner for his party’s nomination despite facing four indictments, two of them related to his attempts to overturn Biden’s victory in the 2020 election.

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    But will he do anything to stop their extremism or reduce their numbers?

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    No.

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        he is the goddamn president of the USA. US presidents have invaded third world countries on a whim, signed countless kill orders, done excessive subversive action against activists, co-opted press for propaganda, have the most militarized police in the world, and absolutely crush any actual opposition. Its only when the white supremacists show up when they “forget” how to run their own country.

        Shut down their press, arrest all online right wing activists. Shapiro, Rogan, etc. Get them on trumped up charges, Al Capone style. Crack down on protests. Use the 3 letter agencies to infiltrate and dismantle their political groups. That destroys their far right base. There is countless dirt against republicans (democrats are just as bad but this is a thing where dems take actual action), use it. Use the media they puppet for endless amounts of propaganda against republicans. monitor and censor right wing thought. You could literally just sign kill orders against them. The president has the power, legally, to do this or tell people to do this. Just say its for securing democracy or some shit.

        literally any one of these things would cripple the loud but fragile right wing movement growing right now.

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        I’d say anything besides espousing how much he cares about the environment and then turning around and signing an environment-obliterating oil project. Or maybe pass any kind of real legislation that matters/codify court decisions. I’m not too picky.

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            goalposts? what the hell are you talking about.

            Can’t people have criticisms about both biden and trump being bad, or is that not allowed anymore.

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            And I’d like to thank you for giving a snarky “gotcha” reply with absolutely zero substance because you have no rebuttal.

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              You’re right. I will not rebut someone who completely changes the subject. I don’t play games like that.

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                Appreciate the confirmation of the above. Makes my life a lot easier when people just tell on themselves. Also, while we’re on the subject, I fail to see how you can’t connect the dots between Biden doing nothing and Biden doing nothing. Unless that’s somehow not what you’re implying and I changed the topic from Biden doing nothing to something entirely different.

                Can’t wait to watch the world burn while people bicker on the internet rather than making change.

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        I don’t expect anything from Joe “nothing will fundamentally change” Biden.

        But what he could do is use his unparalleled ability to communicate with the public to rally antifascist and progressive forces into direct action against the MAGA movement. Rather than just waiting until the next game of voteball, a united front could stand up and break up the fascists before they became a problem in the first place.

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                okay seriously prove your point. how has voting for these people changed anything

                didn’t trump lose the popular vote?

                did we vote to bail out the banks in 08 but leave us all to die?

                did we vote for the shitty covid response both candidates gave?

                the presidents are all basically the same fucking thing policy wise.

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                  I believe you’re the one with the point- that point being people should be murdered. So why aren’t you murdering anyone?

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                Well voting isn’t going to actually get rid of these people. They’ll still be here after the election no matter who wins.

                Getting rid of them requires other action.

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                  Oh, I see. You want to start murdering people. Go ahead and start. I’m sure the rest of us will be right behind you.

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                    Only the ones that deserve it of course. We’re not monsters. Probably won’t need virtue signaling “liberals” (daily reminder that there are no leftists in power) or the fascist cult member dickheads that call themselves conservatives regardless though.

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                    I said no such thing!

                    My enemies deserve the chance to be rehabilitated in work camps - so really what we need is to make the election irrelevant if you know what I mean.

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          Oh, hey, how about that - didn’t expect to see an r/Iowa refugee over here. Welcome to the greener pastures that are generally just as painfully, unthinkingly liberal but far less cancerous.

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          That requires active engagement in one’s community beyond vote-shaming and whining on social media - you’re not going to see much of this from either party.

          Actual community involvement is hard. let’s go joe, blue no matter who, if you don’t vote blue you enable fascists etc. is easy and still lets them feel good about doing something… even if it’s ultimately ineffective.

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            I think they especially hate people who vote third party or conscientiously abstain from electoralism because they know, deep down, that none of that shit really matters.

            And if voting doesn’t really matter, they have to face the truth - they have done absolutely nothing at all

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      You’re a fudder. There’s literally no reason to take a dump on Biden right now when Trump is the alternative.

      Biden FTW.

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        “withhold criticism from this candidate because the other is worse” is not the defense you seem to think it is.

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      nooo but muh harm reduction that hasn’t reduced any harm

      lol I love that it was during the “harm reduction candidates” term that we got fucking abortion taken

      ‘nothing will fundamentally change’ is literally just as bad as the republicans

      these people seriously think they can just waltz around and do nothing and thats better somehow.