Humanity’s common nature, beyond the last few hundred years, is actually one of mutual aid and cooperation. I’d encourage you to look into the various Peoples Histories of the various parts of the world. It is increasingly clear the more data is gathered that the current system of elevating greed, avarice, selfishness etc, is a historical outlier on a history that stretches back hundreds of thousands of years of people collectively cooperating.
Now you’re asserting ascribing more and more to me. I’ve read plenty of books, we could go through some we’ve read if you really want to. Have you read Graeber and Wengrow’s “Dawn of Everything: A New History of Humanity”? How about Paulo Freire’s “Pedagogy of the Oppressed”? They’re pretty popular books, I wouldn’t be surprised if you have, but if not I’d recommend them. Do you have any recommendations for me?
I asked you a very simple question. If you believe that I do not have moral integrity, then it stands to reason that you yourself must ascribe to a very stringent moral philosophy. I am asking you what that philosophy is so that I can come to understand your perspective better.
What is honor? Seriously, honor is such a vague, ever changing term that you could mean a hundred different things by that. Is it honorable to run a business that provides free meals to hundreds of people a month, even if that business relies upon the extraction of surplus value from workers, which is the very system that leads to the need for the very charity they provide?
Is education honorable? Is all education honorable regardless of intention? Is intention the only qualifier for honor, or conversely, is outcome the only important factor, or is it a mix of both? If someone is honorable in deed but dishonorable in intention, should they be both honored and dishonored? If one behaving in an honorable fashion accidentally leads to a worse outcome than had they acted selfishly, should we still honor them? Conversely, if behaving in a dishonorable fashion leads to objectively better outcomes for a majority of people, is that worthy of honor?
What I’m getting at is, morality is rarely so simple as simple catch phrases like that imply.
I have spent a lot of time on moral philosophy, and I only have more questions than when I started.
Humanity’s common nature, beyond the last few hundred years, is actually one of mutual aid and cooperation. I’d encourage you to look into the various Peoples Histories of the various parts of the world. It is increasingly clear the more data is gathered that the current system of elevating greed, avarice, selfishness etc, is a historical outlier on a history that stretches back hundreds of thousands of years of people collectively cooperating.
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assertingascribing more and more to me. I’ve read plenty of books, we could go through some we’ve read if you really want to. Have you read Graeber and Wengrow’s “Dawn of Everything: A New History of Humanity”? How about Paulo Freire’s “Pedagogy of the Oppressed”? They’re pretty popular books, I wouldn’t be surprised if you have, but if not I’d recommend them. Do you have any recommendations for me?Removed by mod
Which moral philosophy do you subscribe to?
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I asked you a very simple question. If you believe that I do not have moral integrity, then it stands to reason that you yourself must ascribe to a very stringent moral philosophy. I am asking you what that philosophy is so that I can come to understand your perspective better.
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What is honor? Seriously, honor is such a vague, ever changing term that you could mean a hundred different things by that. Is it honorable to run a business that provides free meals to hundreds of people a month, even if that business relies upon the extraction of surplus value from workers, which is the very system that leads to the need for the very charity they provide?
Is education honorable? Is all education honorable regardless of intention? Is intention the only qualifier for honor, or conversely, is outcome the only important factor, or is it a mix of both? If someone is honorable in deed but dishonorable in intention, should they be both honored and dishonored? If one behaving in an honorable fashion accidentally leads to a worse outcome than had they acted selfishly, should we still honor them? Conversely, if behaving in a dishonorable fashion leads to objectively better outcomes for a majority of people, is that worthy of honor?
What I’m getting at is, morality is rarely so simple as simple catch phrases like that imply.
I have spent a lot of time on moral philosophy, and I only have more questions than when I started.