More than 100 Arizona Palestinian, Arab, Muslim, and progressive Democrats and community leaders have signed a letter making the case for those reluctant to support Kamala Harris against Donald Trump.

“We know that many in our communities are resistant to vote for Kamala Harris because of the Biden administration’s complicity in the genocide,” the letter, published Thursday night, reads.

“Some of us have lost many family members in Gaza and Lebanon. We respect those who feel they simply can’t vote for a member of the administration that sent the bombs that may have killed their loved ones,” the letter continued. “As we consider the full situation carefully, however, we conclude that voting for Kamala Harris is the best option for the Palestinian cause and all of our communities.”

  • TheOubliette
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    2 hours ago

    You should not normalize genocide by voting for any genocider candidate, nor publicly rationalizing doing so.

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        I would like you and others to stop normalizing the genocide of Palestine. If you stop announcing your unconditional support for the people genociding Palestine to any degree then it has been effective.

        In terms of being more generally politically effective, it is important to take a step away from the dictates of your political class faction. I think that having a simple red line of not supporting genocide should be enough for any moral person to do so.

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      2 hours ago

      We should protest and take action, but vote for those who will make things less bad. Our system is fucked, but making yourself effectively invisible doesn’t help. If your vote doesn’t got for one of the two parties you are worth as much as someone who doesn’t exist.

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        1 hour ago

        We should protest and take action, but vote for those who will make things less bad.

        The Biden-Harris administration is committing this genocide. “Less bad”, friend, they are doing the worst thing.

        Our system is fucked, but making yourself effectively invisible doesn’t help.

        Given the extent to which Dem voters rely on personal moralism, I think that “don’t vote for genocidera” should be enough. You are complicit if you vote for a person doing genocide.

        But if you prefer to think this is about strategy, what do you think makes your interests more relevant? Being a loudly guaranteed lever pull for the party even when you acknowledge they are doing a genocide, or someone that will, at least some of the time, actually withhold their vote on a stated principal?

        It is actually your logic that leads to irrelevancy. It is logic handed down by party PR ghouls and they repeat it because it works: it means they don’t need to listen to you, they can just convince you to disempower yourself!

        If your vote doesn’t got for one of the two parties you are worth as much as someone who doesn’t exist.

        I disagree, but even if I didn’t, a vote complicit in genocide is worse than not voting at all.

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          57 minutes ago

          They’re not doing the worst thing. Doing Genocide AND the 2025 Trump agenda is worse.

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            50 minutes ago

            Genocide is the worst thing and should be a red line. Please do your best to not help erase that red line.

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              43 minutes ago

              Question: Is genocide in Xinjiang a red line for you?

              I already know what your answer’s going to be, I’m just asking to highlight what your real goal here is.

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                I do not live in China and cannot do any advocacy related to Xinjiang. Though I will point out that there is not a genocide there. By now you should be able to recognize the differences. The mass killings, the videos, the diaspora, the intense censorship. We could discuss the ridiculous think tank and fake university apparatus that sold that lie with the US State Department, but to be frank, it is disgusting to distract from opposition to the genocide of Palestinians with this lazy attempt at a gotcha. Personally, I think you should apologize.

                I already know what your answer’s going to be, I’m just asking to highlight what your real goal here is.

                My real goal is to advocate against normalization of genocide in the US. I have organized actions and protests to this effect for over a year.

                Do your best to at least not believe your own bullshitting.

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                  Okay, so you’re okay with genocide in Xinjiang, just not in Gaza. And your strategy for solving the genocide in Gaza is to let someone come into power who’s even more pro-genocide that the tepid pro-genocide stance of the current Democrats. Dooming millions of innocent people who can’t fight back to a catastrophe beyond even their present catastrophe.

                  So you’re okay with certain genocides. And you don’t want strategies that will avoid a huge escalation of the existing genocide in Gaza.

                  It honestly doesn’t sound like you’re very anti-genocide.

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                    Okay, so you’re okay with genocide in Xinjiang

                    This is a lie and I will not respond until it is retracted.