• ComradeSharkfucker
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    3 months ago

    I’m not chronically ill in any debilitating way. Do people actually say this shit? You gotta be incredibly ignorant right? This is unfathomable to me

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      No this is real and happens all the time.

      I have neuropathy and it just literally does not matter what I tell 99% of people, they’ll almost all say I am lying and lazy and get angry when I tell them ‘ok, I can try to go out and do this physical thing, but I’ll be in screaming pain after an hour or two and need to rest for the next two days.’

      Last two girlfriends I had literally did not give a shit, kept pushing me far beyond the limits I told them I had and then got angry at me about it.

      One refused to stop going on rides at a county fair so that she could let me sit in her car before my phone died. I ended up writhing in pain outside her car for 2 hours before she noticed.

      Another had me walking around for about 8 hours 3 days in a row for a convention, after we both agreed I could only do about 2 hours a day. Had to take a week off work to recover. So I paid for the whole outing, then lost a week of work pay, and the net result was she was angry I ruined the whole experience for her.

      People do not fucking register non obvious illnesses. Even mental illnesses, at least among younger people, now have better social acceptance than chronic pain.

      You can tell people who tell you they love you that what is easy for them is excruciating for you and they don’t understand why causing you to be in excruciating pain and then belittling you about it causes you to be angry.

      I finally got SSDI and just live alone now, cut off contact with everyone. Never been less stressed out, haven’t had this good of at least mental health in over a decade.

      Don’t have people constantly shaming me and guilt tripping me. So, so much less stress.

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        3 months ago

        :( that’s awful, I’m glad you cut those people off. Hopefully you find better someday

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        I hope you find better people in your life, my partner is also dealing with undiagnosed chronic pain (we’re going through appointments still), i can’t say i understand what you feel but i know how it affects her, and that’s probably pretty similar. You deserve better, hope you find relief and better friends.

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      3 months ago

      It’s not unfathomable to me at all, unfortunately. For so many people, empathy is seen as weakness and any issues others deal with are bullshit sob stories worthy of contempt… unless it happens to them!

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        It’s not just that, I’m certain many people genuinely don’t understand. Being unwell 24/7 is unfathomable to them, as they’ve never experienced it (and hopefully never will). That’s not an excuse for bs behavior though.

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          Definitely. Genuinely not understanding, coupled with a negativity-first mindset where people’s default position is cynical contempt for others, is a hell of a combination.

          It’s almost a guaranteed attribute for the conservative MAGA types I know. Just assume somebody is a lazy ass working the system for that sweet disability check unless proven otherwise.

          I have a chronic potentially disabling condition myself, and while the fatigue and mental effects are rough, thank goodness it’s not straight up constant pain.

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      Yeah it happens. I’ve got an auto immune disease. When I get any sort of bug, I’m sleeping 20 hours a day. Many people, my own wife included, comment on how must be nice to sleep that much.

      I’m literally sleeping that much because I don’t have the strength to do anything else

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      3 months ago

      Is it your first day on this planet? No “/s” because I’m serious. Unless you’ve been so holed up and out of touch your entire life until this point, human ignorance is constantly on display.

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        I guess I expect general empathy and respect from others idk? I wouldn’t think this sorta of thing would be unheard of but I also wouldn’t expect it to be the norm. I guess I imagined it would be relegated to a small amount of shitty people.

        To answer you though I probably am out of touch, I don’t go out much except for class and in those classes I typically don’t talk to people. I have a few close friends I have had for years and haven’t bothered making new ones.

        Don’t get me wrong though I have experienced general shittiness because I’m autistic but throughout most of my childhood I managed to just be ignored rather than antagonized.

        I guess I just expect better of people idk, or maybe a part of me believes that the severe ignorance I see online is just fake or exaggerated.