"Progressives should not make the same mistake that Ernst Thälmann made in 1932. The leader of the German Communist Party, Thälmann saw mainstream liberals as his enemies, and so the center and left never joined forces against the Nazis. Thälmann famously said that ‘some Nazi trees must not be allowed to overshadow a forest’ of social democrats, whom he sneeringly called ‘social fascists.’

After Adolf Hitler gained power in 1933, Thälmann was arrested. He was shot on Hitler’s orders in Buchenwald concentration camp in 1944."

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    The vote is counted. It gets tallied for the candidates it’s marked for.

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        Any candidate who gets 270 electoral votes.

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          Right. And PSL cannot get 270 votes from 18 states. It’s literally impossible. You’re throwing your vote away.

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            Do you think winning the electoral college is the only effect that a third party vote has?

            Especially for a party like PSL that runs down ticket candidates there’s much more than winning the ec.

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              The winner wins the election and becomes the President and Vice President. That is what happens, not whatever your fantasy makes up.

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                Wow, is voter turnout used for anything else?

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                  No. Voter turn out is how many people are voting. What else do did you think it is?

                  This election, sense you don’t seem to understand it somehow, is for the president who will be in charge of our country for at least the next four years. As well as for the office holders downvote.

                  Not voting for one of the only two people that are able to win is throwing your vote away and giving Trump the edge. Any vote that is not for Harris gives Trump an easier time to win.

                  If you don’t care which person gets elected, then that’s fine. But if Trump gets elected and you don’t like it, you only have yourself to blame.

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                    Wait how is it throwing my vote away? The ballot is tallied for my preferred party. The ballot doesn’t give trump an edge because it isn’t cast for trump.

                    By your logic that same third party ballot gives Harris an edge and the two edges combine and cancel out. Or explode. Or something.

                    How am I to blame for trumps ostensible victory when I don’t vote for him? Are all voters to blame just like me? Are democratic strategists who author Harris’ rightward move to blame? Is Harris herself to blame in the case of a trump victory?