"Progressives should not make the same mistake that Ernst Thälmann made in 1932. The leader of the German Communist Party, Thälmann saw mainstream liberals as his enemies, and so the center and left never joined forces against the Nazis. Thälmann famously said that ‘some Nazi trees must not be allowed to overshadow a forest’ of social democrats, whom he sneeringly called ‘social fascists.’

After Adolf Hitler gained power in 1933, Thälmann was arrested. He was shot on Hitler’s orders in Buchenwald concentration camp in 1944."

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    2 months ago

    Wait how is it throwing my vote away? The ballot is tallied for my preferred party. The ballot doesn’t give trump an edge because it isn’t cast for trump.

    By your logic that same third party ballot gives Harris an edge and the two edges combine and cancel out. Or explode. Or something.

    How am I to blame for trumps ostensible victory when I don’t vote for him? Are all voters to blame just like me? Are democratic strategists who author Harris’ rightward move to blame? Is Harris herself to blame in the case of a trump victory?

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      2 months ago

      Multiple people have explained all of it to you in this post and others. You are refusing to listen. I’m done with you, I’m sorry but you’re either extremely naive or you’re willfully being an idiot. Either way you’re annoying to talk to.

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        2 months ago

        if you think you have a coherent explanation how third party is throwing ones vote away i’ll ilsten.

        it seems like most people rely on “your party can’t win” and dont engage with how there are effects outside winning involved with american elections. i also get a lot of accusations of helping trump win that break down under the slightest questioning.

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            2 months ago

            So do the simultaneous edges my vote gives both Harris and trump cancel out or explode?

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                2 months ago

                Do you think effects outside of winning a particular race are made up?

                Do you think the way to build representation is to work at the grassroots level except for in elections?

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                    No, but I’m beginning to suspect that you don’t.