• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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    5 months ago

    This war would’ve never even started if NATO didn’t keep expanding eastwards as Stoltenberg openly admitted

    He wanted us to remove our military infrastructure in all Allies that have joined NATO since 1997, meaning half of NATO, all the Central and Eastern Europe, we should remove NATO from that part of our Alliance, introducing some kind of B, or second class membership. We rejected that. So he went to war to prevent NATO, more NATO, close to his borders.

    https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_218172.htm

    And everyone with a brain knows the peace demand from Russia are bullshit.

    Being easily brainwashed by propaganda is not a sign of having a functioning brain.

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      5 months ago

      Tiananmen Square happened the Chinese government are fascists and is literally collapsing

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      5 months ago

      This war would’ve never even started if NATO didn’t keep expanding eastwards as Stoltenberg openly admitted

      Except NATO isn’t expanding east because NATO wants to expand east. NATO expands east because the countries next to Russia want assurances against Russia. Poland and the Baltics know since MRP that you can’t trust Moscow. Finland and Sweden didn’t join NATO until Russia threatened them. In Ukraine the polling data correlates with Russia’s annexation of Crimea because the month before annexation Ukrainians had no desire to join NATO and the month after annexation majority Ukrainians wanted to join NATO. NATO expansions happen in response to the bullying by Russia. The whole “NATO shouldn’t expand east” is Russian talking point so Russia could continue bullying it’s neighbors. Your link says that exact same thing.

      Being easily brainwashed by propaganda is not a sign of having a functioning brain.

      You don’t need propaganda to see what shit demands Russia has. Let’s give them a third of Ukraine for a botched invasion and leave the door open for another invasion by not allowing them to join NATO. What sensible demands where Ukraine gains nothing from it.

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        5 months ago

        What sensible demands where Ukraine gains nothing from it.

        That’s what happens when you lose a war.

        Except NATO isn’t expanding east because NATO wants to expand east. NATO expands east because the countries next to Russia want assurances against Russia.

        Do you have a baby brain? Do you think history began when you were born three years ago?

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                5 months ago

                Except NATO isn’t expanding east because NATO wants to expand east.

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                  5 months ago

                  Stop with the low effort shit, either explain your point or stfu. I’m not going to decipher your comments.

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                    5 months ago

                    You’re saying some real stupid shit and you’re being a snot about it. “Nato isn’t doing the thing it’s been doing for three decades! They’re doing a different thing that comes to the same outcome!”

                    get it or don’t this is what I’m giving you

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          I know that reading comprehension isn’t your strong suite but please do try and come back when you understand what I said before.