• CableMonster
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    2 months ago

    Oh gotcha, I point out reality so it must be a troll. It would be good for you to actually learn what the fuck is happening and not just repeat the propaganda you read on the internet.

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      2 months ago

      Buddy, you didn’t point out shit, you gave a presupposition. If you want to point something out, point out the legislation behind each of the “steps the left has taken in the last few years.”

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        2 months ago

        I never said there was legislation, and in fact if they can accomplish steps without legislation then thats even better for them.

        Step 1 - Can you say mainstream ideas that conservative believe on social media and not get kicked off most platforms? No, you will get booted off most platforms.

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            2 months ago

            How many times have I been banned off this site or from sub-reddits for sharing tepidly conservative opinions? On this site I think temporarily 2-3 times, and probably 30 different subreddits. But you are free to yell any crazy leftist belief about the revolution and putting people up against the wall.

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              I’m sure you were banned for opinions that expressed no sort of bigotry or hatred of people not like you, and these were easy, mainsteam opinions that only a fool would find unacceptable. Yep, I have no doubt you are not leaving out any details whatsoever.

              Anyhow, here you are, somehow still posting, and no one has any doubt that you’re a conservative. I’d say you are expressing yourself pretty freely.

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                They were boring comments about general conseravtive beliefs, and most of the times I am just explaining what other people believe. Just take a peak at side wide rules, they literally call conservatives bigots all the time and thus interpret their opinions as bigotry and can boot them. And I guess you forget about covid and what they did back then to kick off opinions that went against the overall agenda (cue incoming strawman).

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                  And I guess you forget about covid and what they did back then to kick off opinions that went against the overall agenda (cue incoming strawman).

                  My dude, covid is when I first witnessed this phenomenon of my social media channels being clogged with conservatives telling me they aren’t allowed on social media.

                  Hey, you guys shouldn’t have rallied behind the bigot in chief in 2016, then decided (apparently party-wide) that the new Republican strategy was to be the biggest assholes in the room, (any room, be that lecture hall or family holiday gathering) made attempts to whitewash parts of US history you didn’t like, and proclaimed anyone on the queer side of things as a groomer (and/or continuously elected people doing those things) if you didn’t want to be labeled as bigots. (and I’m not even dipping into the whole white supremacy thing) (edit - heck, I forgot the assault on reproductive rights for women - that too!)

                  If you lie down with dogs…

                  US conservatives (and Republicans in particular) are experiencing nothing other than reaping what they have sown. When all my local republicans stop putting signs in their yards about what a moron and traitor I am for not voting for Trump, that might be a sign that the three sane ones have gotten together and somehow started to calm the masses. Until then…

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                    Are you denying that peoples channels and social media were censored during covid? And do you think that maybe if a bunch of people saying their channels are getting censored, then maybe a bunch of peoples channels are getting censored?

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          Step 1 - Can you say mainstream ideas that conservative believe on social media and not get kicked off most platforms? No, you will get booted off most platforms.

          Heh I know I’m starting a parallel reply chain, but I suddenly remembered this meme today. This is really the crux of the problem.

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            1 month ago

            Oh wow, a meme that is more propaganda, wow good job!

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          If we’re not talking legislation, then I don’t see how it’s all that important in a discussion about democracy. If a social media company chooses freely to decide they don’t want to platform someone, where’s the problem? That’s freedom, baby. I have very few carveouts where I will not support someone’s actual right to speech, but I do not think forcing any private entity to platform speech they are against is all that democratic.

          I do not even agree that many of these companies are really all that quick to deplatform people either. There are many conservative voices on social media. The examples that come to mind where individuals were kicked off certain sites generally involve explicit undue vitriol against other people (individuals and communities), often wishing harm unto them. If this is not what you mean by the “mainstream ideas that conservative believe” that people are being kicked off platforms for (I sure hope not)…then what else? I mean, who is being booted off of platforms for saying they think the government is too big, or that they think x politician is doing a poor job, etc.?

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            The issue is the government is so big that it is married to corporations (mainly on the federal level). So the big issue is the government directly giving money to companies and telling them who to censor, and also how the financial system works and the funds that the companies get indirect to censorship. Also there is the “public square” argument that social media is the public square and a few companies have a monopoly on the public square.