Before some emotions getting high on the title and the website, here are a few things coming from me

  • Not my title of choice.
  • I do not like this user or his page because he practical calls every Browser spyware, you do not need to believe me on this, just check other articles from him.
  • He has some valid points but others are pure nonsense which is the reason I dislike the user, he often lacks proper research on topics he links he mentions.
  • Do not make more drama out of it then it is. Thanks.
  • Do not bash the author, it is his opinion. Valid findings are okay, of course. This also goes vice-versa, sure thing.

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    3 years ago

    I do not think he said that Mozilla hates their own users,

    Well he says the following:

    This situation proves not only that Mozilla’s staff is incompetent, but that they also hate the users

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      3 years ago

      Yeah, he wrote - Mozilla staff - and not Mozilla and everyone who is connected to it.

      Based on that example I would also come to the conclusion that - they - handled it badly at that time. With they I mean whoever actually really was involved into this.

      I also do not know if that was a single staff decision or if that was reviewed by others. He is a bit harsh and it reads that he generalize this, but I do not think that was his intention. I guess he meant, based on his given example that this particular staff did not liked Filipus Klutiero opinion, but this will remain a secret since there is no evidence for or against such conclusion.

      I would rule against staff here because they are biased, one way or another and it makes more sense that you ban the ones who do not agree with you or your program because it possible make Mozilla or their staff look bad. But it already looked bad so or so, so whoever had the saying, he simply made a judgment call.

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        3 years ago

        Yeah, he wrote - Mozilla staff - and not Mozilla and everyone who is connected to it.

        I don’t think there’s any normal usage of the English language where Mozilla doesn’t encompass “Mozilla staff.”

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          3 years ago

          Mozilla as cooperation and staff, CEO, developers, fans, haters etc might have other inertestes. This is not the same and a oversimplification + generalization what you simply wrongfully interpret here. Staff is typical admin, mod … depends on who was involved, which we simply do not know.

          There are thousands of articles claiming Google is evil, would you assume here every worker that works for Google is evil, no it is just to show the whole point. There are interests coming from CEO, Staff, developers, etc. In that given example the admin, mod or whoever was behind might had an interest to protect Mozilla here. Protecting interests is by default nothing bad but it can get bad if there are things connected to it, ethical implications etc.

          I already said we do not know the whole story and never will.

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            3 years ago

            I’m sorry, you’re just dead wrong here. In normal everyday parlance, references to Mozilla include their staff.

            That’s consistent with how we normally talk about companies in pretty much any context.

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              3 years ago

              Not according to articles that flying around the internet.