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    Someone says: USA Bad (with proof)

    USApes: It must mean they think China and Russia are good.

    ¿Por Qué No Los Tres?

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      It’s usually * Russia/China does something horrific *

      Normal People: Hey, this is pretty terrible.

      Tankies: IT’S NOT TERRIBLE BECAUSE WHAT USA DID IS MUCH WORSE.

      In 98% of my Encounter with Tankies, they are the one who try to steer the topic away from the horrible thing China/Russia has done and towards: LOOK USA BAD! Even if the USA has NOTHING to do with the topic at all. It’s like that’s their go-to argument. And of course: " Yeah, it’s not bad because the puppet States of China and/or Russia said it’s not bad. "

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        They usually skip the morality and jump straight to the whataboutism. They know that the thing is bad and won’t argue that, but they will try to sweep it under the rug and change the narrative to US doing something bad too.

        At the end of the day they’re like kids in a playground justifying that they can do something bad because someone else did it too.

        Oh and I can tell that someone will misinterpret my comment and think I’m downplaying the sh*t that the US did

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          Yep. If anyone doubts this, try telling them how Marx was an antisemite and watch their heads explode in an epic rage-filled whatabout rant.

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            Marx was of Jewish descent himself, and argued for the liberation of Jewish people. He brutally took down one of the most anti-semetic pieces of his time, The Jewish Question, in his essay On The Jewish Question. Bauer argued for forcing Jewish people to deconvert in The Jewish Question.

            In On the Jewish Question, Marx argues that Religion has played a terrible role in supporting the ruling class, whether that be the aristocracy in Feudalism or the Bourgeoisie in Capitalism, but ultimately argues that this is not an issue of ethnicity, but Mode of Production, and that antisemitism is abhorant.

            You don’t have to be a Marxist, but trying to paint a Jewish man as antisemetic, that argued against some of the most antisemetic contemporaries of his time, is historical revisionism.

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              Have you by chance read his letters to Engles?

              “Is it a misfortune that magnificent California was seized from the lazy Mexicans who did not know what to do with it?”

              -Karl Marx

              “Being in his quality as a hard R slur removed, a degree nearer to the rest of the animal kingdom than the rest of us, he is undoubtedly the most appropriate representative of that district.”

              -Engles, regarding Marx’ son in law Paul LaFargue, who Engles said possessed “one eighth or one twelfth hard R slur removed blood.”

              Bonus points:

              “The Negro is indolent and lazy and spends his money on frivolities, whereas the European is forward-looking, organized and intelligent.”

              -Che Guevara

              Why idolize such virulent racists who say things that would make even Ted Cruz (Cruise? Kruz? Fuck it) blush? Seems like it may be a bad crowd to follow.