The video opens with Rober standing in front of a fancy-looking box, saying:

Hiding inside this box is an absolute marvel of engineering you might just find protecting you the next time you’re at a public event that’s got a lot of people.

When he says “protecting you,” the video momentarily cuts to stock footage of a packed sports stadium, the first of many “war on terror”-coded editorial decisions, before returning to the box, which opens and releases a drone. This is no ordinary drone, he says, but a particularly heavy and fast drone, designed to smash “bad guy drones trying to do bad guy things.” He explains how “it’s only a matter of time” before these bad guys’ drones attack infrastructure “or worse,” cutting to a photo of a stadium for the third time in just 30 seconds.

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    Like i said in the OP, good propaganda isn’t lies, but the truth selectively emphasized. Drones are a threat, but I have a problem with the way that the whole package is being presented here. I get that, in a way, it’s a subtle complaint, but the subtlety is part of what makes it effective. That’s why it took me 3000 words to explain my point!

    I suspect that another important point of disagreement here, besides my personal moral objection to making weapons of war in general, is that I believe that arms manufacturing and wars themselves can’t be treated separately, as you’re doing. Weapons contractors are hugely influential in American politics. They spend tons of money advocating for war, which reenforces the giant war budget, which feedbacks forever. Basically every news article about foreign policy quotes a defense contractor funded think tank, for example. They also give generously to hawkish members of Congress.

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      I don’t disagree with much of that; I believe there are abuses all along the way. But situations like Ukraine (and what’s brewing in Taiwan) are conclusive proof that we need a capable military.

      In full disclosure, you’re not going to think I’m very unbiased because I work for an aerospace and defense contractor (though mostly for NASA projects). But I’m also personally very liberal.

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        But situations like Ukraine (and what’s brewing in Taiwan) are conclusive proof that we need a capable military.

        That’s extremely facile. The word “capable” is a massive understatement. Our military budget is bigger than the next ten countries combined. That includes Russia and China. There are years when the American military budget grows by an amount bigger than the entire Russian budget.

        Also, because American weapons do sometimes end up on what you consider the right side of a conflict doesn’t conclusively prove anything about the American war industry, or the American military, in general. There’s a Yemen, a Gaza, an Iraq, or a Pakistan for every Ukraine.

        re:Taiwan - When reporting on the situation in Taiwan, American media relies heavily on think tanks like the Center for Strategic and International Studies. It’s a very sanitized, academic sounding name, but they’re funded by the Arms industry and the Pentagon, and all they ever do is advocate for a bigger military budget. I’m not saying that China is puppies and rainbows, but I am saying that our military budget is already so much bigger than China’s, and that these think tanks have a vested financial interest in convincing us that China is a huge threat and our budget is too small to confront it.

        Just to add another example, it’s the same with Iran: When those protests broke out in 2017, the American media had arms-industry-funded think tanks on nonstop constantly advocating for “regime change” and military build up in a country already completely surrounded by American military bases. That doesn’t seem like a good faith path to peace to me. Imagine for a second how the US would react if Iran put a single base within our hemisphere, let alone all along the Canada and Mexico borders.