A judge ordered Planned Parenthood to hand records of transgender care over to Andrew Bailey.

A St. Louis judge has ruled that Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey is entitled to Planned Parenthood’s transgender care records, ordering the nonprofit to turn over some of its most sensitive files to the man who has built his unelected political career on restricting health care access for trans people.

In his Thursday decision, Circuit Judge Michael Stelzer wrote that Bailey can collect documents under Missouri’s consumer protection statute that aren’t protected under federal mandate, namely the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, better known as HIPAA.

“It is clear from the statute that the Defendant has the broad investigative powers when the consumer is in possible need of protection and there is no dispute in this matter,” wrote Stelzer. “Therefore, the Defendant is entitled to some of the requested documents within his [Civil Investigative Demand].”

Bailey, who last year attempted to implement a ban on gender-affirming care for people of all ages, was quick to celebrate the decision, calling it a “big day” for the state.

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    8 months ago

    Not all doctors are captured by an ideology, but all you need is some of them. I am probably one of the more anti-government normal people you will meet, and I think the one job a government has is to protect people from harm of others.

    So lets go back to the tattoo example, if there was an ideology that said face tattoos are normal and perfectly fine, and the parent believes it, and the beliefs of the parents easily transfer to the kid, and they both agree. They find a tattoo artist and doctor that have the same ideology and they agree. Me and you are watching this and seeing this ideology doesnt make sense and that kid will be directly and severely harmed for the rest of their life for getting a face tattoo, what should we do?

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        8 months ago

        They reason you dont “play my game” is becuase it takes you out of the ideological capture and looks at the issue impartially.

        Hormone blockers after X period of time do cause permanent change or damage. I dont claim to know exactly what the time period is, but it obviously does. Also there are surgeries happening to minors. The question you have to ask is what is the desistance rate for minors? Not detransition, desistance.

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            Puberty blockers used for normal testable medical disorders, I agree but that is different than for trans related things. And there are also surgeries on minors happening. Do you actually think if a 13 year old takes homone blockers till they are 18 and then stops their body is not permanently harmed or altered?

            The question you have to answer is what is the desistance rate for minors? Not detransition, desistance. For your own ideology that number is super important.

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                Yes it absolutely is a medical disoder, I 100% agree, but its a medical disorder that you cand directly test for.

                Its not a ton of minors getting surguries, something like 300 a year, but that is not what the argument hinges on, but I can find the data if you really want it.

                So again, what is the desistance rates for minors? This is the important number you dont seem to want to find out.

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                    8 months ago

                    But those kids aren’t getting gender-affirming care.

                    How do you know? There are stories where kids do one appointment with a doctor and are diagnosed. You are making claims that are not provable. I am good at math and i can tell you that if the majority of kids that think they are trans later desist then a good sized portion of them are getting meds. How many kids could get meds they should not have before giving meds to kids is banned?

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                    8 months ago

                    Here you go.

                    You can not agree with certain stats, but obviously many kids are either confused or being actively influence, what is the percentage that desist?