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    yes, take for example taxing the rich. majority of people want it, most politicians wont even touch the subject. at best they will lie about it and then not even try.

    there are many many other issues like this, just took the low hanging example.

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      I am not sure the majority of the country, if they were put in the same position of power, would not do the same.

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          Because I think the majority of people are easy to corrupt, it takes exceptional people to resist the temptation of an easy life for you and your relatives.

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            yes! thats exactly why i say rich people are to blame for most societal issues, and the model of democracy we currently have is very flawed. both of these things concentrate too much power.

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              yes! thats exactly why i say rich people are to blame for most societal issues

              But you agreed most people would do the same in their place, didn’t you? So it’s a general human issue rather than only rich people’s fault, isn’t it? Agreed that most democracies are flawed, but I still think social democracy is the best we have for now.

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                not really. if we didnt allow people to get so rich in the first place, it would not be that much of a problem.

                socialism has a better track record when it comes to this of course there are exceptions either way. a lot of the good stuff in socdem comes fron socialists anyway.

                of course we dont have a 100% solution, just a possible step forward as it always is with humanity.

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                  Better track record to avoid rich people, but not to allow general population quality of life and prevention of an authoritarian government. I’ll take European social democracy and its rich people over it.

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                    in general the soviet union (and china for that matter) has been on the vanguard of quality of life for the common people. even vietnam is doing much better than east asians in general.

                    most of the good workers rights you see in europe came first for the soviets.

                    the problem with social democracy is that it doesnt address the rich people and they take it right back over time, as you can see in the US for example.

                    most of the socialist countries are democratic rn.