• utopiah
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    7 months ago

    Quite curious, I’m a VR gamer (and developer) and so far I’ve just had no problem with Proton and SteamVR, including for officially non supported games.

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      7 months ago

      I am too far into nvidia windows things. I run really extreme games with 4090 and tons of mods. Unreal, unity, blender all that stuff. If there is one thing that windows does okay it’s my use case.

      I guess they have me right where they want 😂

      Also I am not sure if virtual desktop works on Linux

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        I have 4090 and 2080ti setups running both games and AI models, Blender, etc on Linux so I’m not sure where the problem is there.

        I’m not saying you should switch if you don’t want to, I’m only saying for my use cases it’s not only possible but wasn’t a problem and has been stable for years, both for gaming, in VR or not (was playing BG3 just an hour ago), and for 3D/XR work.

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          Cmon Linux NVidia drivers are garbage. You can’t possibly run everything to the same extent or performance. Not to mention ray tracing etc. Let’s not delude ourselves or try to peddle some fiction unnecessarily

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            7 months ago

            Genuinely confused here, are you saying I didn’t play BG3, HL:A, etc on my Linux desktop and I just dreamt for last few years?

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              I am saying you played stuff that happened to run okay and not some other use cases where it struggles. I must probably take your word and pretend that it is true in some way even though everything I know about VR nvidia experience on Linux disagrees with your comment.

              Bg3 or alyx is not a good example. Rather consider skyrimvr 1000 mods and cyberpunk pathtraced.

              It’s just how it is when megacorp pours money into compatibility with one ecosystem and specifically refuses to provide support for another. It could work amazingly if they only had minuscule amount of goodwill

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                7 months ago

                Don’t believe, check how countless others are doing it https://www.protondb.com I’m not sure where your experience comes from and that’s a shame it’s been a negative one (and I won’t dig into why, e.g how you did try and when), it just hasn’t been mine.

                PS : I wouldn’t consider a game with 1000 mods a “normal” gaming experience. It sounds like it’s yours, and that’s perfectly fine, but I don’t believe this to be representative.

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                  My use case is extreme as I stated before I think? I thought 4090 is enough indication of extreme tbh and that you wouldn’t want to run 3/4 supported Linux with a card like this.

                  I am definitely not an average gamer. There is nothing average about 4090 and VR. Not to mention elaborate expensive router setup for wireless VR.

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                    Except that’s my point though, I even started with that… I do have a 4090 also and use it to play VR on Linux. That part IS a “normal” experience. It’s the 1000mods that isn’t. To clarify I mention BG3 and HLA only because it’s AAA. I also play indie VR games on Linux and they “just work”. One of them being built by a friend who was even positively shocked to learn that.

                    I brought ProtonDB up in the previous post, is that due to the SteamDeck running Linux (but on AMD, not NVIDIA) there has been a huge effort on Valve’s part to make the compatibility layer “just work” so the experience a gamer had with Linux just few years ago is not the same as today.

                    Another source beside ProtonDB https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/three-gaming-focused-linux-operating-systems-beat-windows-11-in-gaming-benchmarks even though I find benchmarks to be a bit artificial at least not my opinion against another.