It doesn’t matter if it is fascism. That’s the whole point. The left is refusing to admit that their policies are having a negative impact on people and they’re embracing fascism because at least those people are agreeing that it is a problem.
Western nations are playing the “we have no workers” game after decades of stagnant birth rates because people have no money. Not because people just suddenly decided they don’t want a family. Parroting this is just more of the same lies that people are sick of hearing.
The government can use policies to boost birth rates domestically and it should be doing so sooner rather than later if they are sincere. Instead, they are keeping the youth impoverished, and telling them the solution to their problems is immigrants. Not only that but then they try to play on their sympathies saying they’re “asylum seekers” when those SAME governments are the ones making them refugees by destroying their countries. How does it make sense to blow up Syria, try to topple the government, and then welcome in their “refugees”? That is extremely paradoxical and I don’t think you’ll find any historical precedent for welcoming in the very people you’re dropping bombs on. It’s obvious those people are extremely resentful and have no interest in assimilating and that is exactly what the evidence supports. Using Germany as an example it would be like welcoming in Russian immigrants while at the same time you’re doing all you can to kill Russians and destroy their infrastructure. Where are all the Russian asylum seekers and refugees being ferried into Germany by international organizations? Why is it just hand picked countries this is being done in? Because it’s all a sham and the left refuses to admit what is obvious.
Immigrants can both take work AND siphon tax money. It is propaganda, which is used often, to try to say “they’re saying X but Y so which is it? They can’t both be true!” Actually, yes, they can both be true. Bringing in foreigners to work for dirt cheap and live in subsidized housing is exactly that and it’s the kind of thing people are sick of seeing. Meanwhile, where are the politicians working on raising western birth rates?
Have any politicians proposed sweeping reforms to child tax credits? Are they working hard to fix the housing situation for young people so they can have the actual space to house a family? No. They aren’t. They’re working as hard as they can to blow up other countries, bring those populations in, pay them nothing, use tax money to support the corporations, and tell everyone that if anyone resists them it’s because they’re racist fascists.
So, people are deciding, well I guess I’m a racist fascist because that is the only avenue I’m being given. Certainly the left isn’t interested in addressing any of the problems they’re creating they just call you a racist if you talk about the out of control rape and other issues.
There WILL be a fascist take over and dumb people ignoring legitimate concerns of the general populace and labeling them fascist will be the cause of it. You’re building those fascist parties up every day when you keep parroting propaganda and ignoring what is obvious to the average person. They will flock to whoever will promise a solution even if it’s ethnic cleansing. To me it seems entirely manufactured and that this is the desired conclusion.
Western populations are so exploited they won’t even reproduce anymore due to lack of resources. Their own government is telling them not to worry that they have no chance of having a family. Don’t worry because there are some other people who have been horribly exploited in places like Africa and the Middle East who we can bring it to replace you. If you think this is a problem it’s because you’re racist.
The left is literally the dumbest most propagandized people I’ve ever seen that they go along with this. You have to either be incredibly stupid or incredibly evil to keep parroting stuff like “we need more people” in response to the government fucking everyone, literally everyone on the whole planet, for the sake of further concentration of power and wealth. Imagine seeing this and going along with it while pretending you’re fighting fascism.
It’s hilarious because the left can’t admit any of their own mistakes. For example, the mass migration into western nations. People said this would cause crime to increase, homelessness, economic turmoil, etc and were simply branded racist for their valid concerns. Now all those things are happening and the left still can’t admit to any of it being true. They just bury their heads in the sand and keep yelling “racist!” and “fascist!” if people don’t want millions of foreigners shipped into their home town and supported by their tax money. Oddly they themselves are the ones promoting racists and fascists if those are the only people who are willing to listen to their legitimate concerns. The left is completely delusional on an individual level and even when you point this out to them, support it with facts, they never admit fault or reconsider their positions. Right now the left media is sensationalizing “fascists” but not covering the crisis caused by their own policies. What do they expect that to result in?
Again, the left brought in tons of “migrants” who wouldn’t even be coming if western nations hadn’t blown up their countries, people said wait a minute, why are we letting people come here from the very countries we are supposedly fighting a “war on terror” against and blowing up all their stuff, won’t they be upset with us, aren’t they incompatible with western values, won’t they compete with us for jobs, won’t we have to spend our taxes supporting them? All of these things and sure enough there are a ton of problems now as a result of the actions of the left and when a political party rises in power to stop them the left starts yelling “facists!” Do they really not understand that people would rather vote for fascists than have their countries destroyed and overrun with people who literally hate them and their way of life?
The left wants people to peacefully accept the destruction of their society. They refuse to look at any of the damage their policies have caused. Honestly my only conclusion is that this is simply the powers that be setting people up to implement fascism.
The most entertaining part is now they’re talking about banning the party that is offering to counter these policies. As if the party came out of a vacuum and simply wants to get rid of all immigrants. The left is incapable of seeing it’s own role in things. Now they want to ban a political party, censor it, spy on it, etc while calling them fascists as they themselves pull out every authoritarian trick in the book crushing the will of the people as they bray about protecting democracy.
See Trudeau violating the constitution, stealing people’s money and locking them out of banking, just because people successfully protested against him and his COVID nonsense. The left IS the fascist authoritarian state they keep claiming people should be scared about if the right wins.
You’re the only who had a negative take but actually responded. That’s encouraging that you aren’t a bot. I’ll just focus on this one though.
This isn’t true. The fact that they need to pay companies for information they can’t legally get elsewhere is proof of this.
You might want to read what Snowden revealed. You’re trying to argue none of those things are true but like I said, they’re undeniably true. You’re just uninformed as to the truth of it. If you’d like to know more then you should admit this one is undeniably true and I’d be happy to source the others. There were many things revealed but you can start with “Prism.”
It was already shown the US government is decrypting all internet traffic, storing all internet traffic in their data center in Utah, that they monitor all video, audio, and text communications. That they wire tap all phone communications and store it. All of this is done without a warrant and in violation of the constitution. They claim it is legal because they don’t look at the data until they have a legal justification. So, they say they’re not spying because even though they’re spying on you, they only look at wire tap data if they have some way to legally justify it. They say it’s legal because if you communicate in any way that a foreign person might receive it then they’re actually spying on the foreign person’s communication even though your data is the one being stored as well. They say it’s legal because they only search records “related to a target.” So if they find one bad guy they can find anyone with a link to them out to a factor of 100. Have you heard of 7 degrees of Kevin Bacon? Imagine 100 degrees and that you have a relationship if you post something on Lemmy for example with EVERYONE who views it. So if some bad guy overseas views your Lemmy post you’re now connected to them and can be spied on using only the justification that they need to spy on that bad guy and anyone they “communicate with.”
Your answer might refer to specific branches of the government. Obviously someone working in government grant reviews for agriculture isn’t spying on everyone. But yes, the government as a whole is spying on everything you do. What’s the point of sourcing anything else if no one can even accept this simple one that even the main stream media covered extensively over the last decade? I mean, they even just reauthorized the program a few weeks ago.
Of course, the average person pays no attention but it doesn’t make it untrue. It’s sad when people are so uninformed and propagandized that they can’t even accept the truths the government has admitted to, defended in court, and continues to authorize even as recently as a few weeks ago. Section 702. Another thread you can look into. There were a lot of threads and it goes far beyond what most people are even able to admit to themselves is technically possible such as the TLS (https, you know the lock on your browser) being easily back doored by the government. After all the entire basis of web encryption relies on “trust” of the certificate authorities who only need to be given a National Security Letter (another thread you can look into) such as when the Reddit canary was removed (another thread you can look into) in order for the government to abuse their position of “trust.”
You would need to review all of these programs, understand the technology being discussed, and then you might be able to accept that, yes, the government is spying on you without a warrant and basically any electronic record you create is stored in an NSA database at a minimum. Then you’d also have to get people to begin to understand just how many records exist about their activity. That’s a whole other discussion.
This is just one item. Notice all the responses are “thats crazy, you’re a crazy person” but no one wants to actually engage in a discussion or refute the points. You’re the only one who made an effort. Look at how much I had to type up and source for just that one point and you might still try to argue and say it’s not true. I don’t have time to type a book in response to things people can look up themselves if they care to know the truth because if they don’t care to look it up they won’t care to read or understand me anyway.
The internet is all bots and shills (Dead internet)
Undeniably true and getting worse every day now
The government is brain washing people (MKUltra)
Undeniably true
UFOs apparently do exist and Congress is admitting it
Undeniably true, were just halfway to the reality of what they are but weird UFOs apparently do exist
The vaccines were not “safe and effective” and many people were maimed and injured for a non-sterilizing vaccine that could never have stopped COVID
Undeniably true. They were saying “safe and effective” before they even knew it had heightened myocarditis risk. The risk to young men in particular is very high and much higher than any risk they faced from COVID.
New world order (globalism) is real and now they openly hold meetings and promote the idea
Undeniably true. WEF just had their meeting. Countries are signing away rights to WHO. Politicians openly used the words “new world order” several times during COVID.
JFK assassination must be shady since they keep refusing to release the final documents on it
Halfway to reality.
The government is spying on everything you do
Undeniably true. There’s a guy in Russia and another in prison in the UK who proved that one already.
Iraq doesn’t have WMDs and we destroyed their country killing millions for some other reason
Undeniably true.
Fluoride in drinking water isn’t safe
Halfway to reality, it’s already admitted now previous studies to prove safety were deeply flawed, and new studies are showing risk of neurological damage.
The news obsessing over Trump bad every night is a scary reasoning for not wanting him in office. It means the propaganda and efforts to disenfranchise people are successful. Trump didn’t lie any more than any other President and often his lies are trivial things. Not like Bush lying about Iraq having WMDs or Biden lying about not getting 10% for the big guy and being involved in Hunter’s foreign business operations. The media is deciding how many lies they’re going to attempt to find and put on the news. I’m sure Trump has said some serious lies too but the media making a mockery of themselves only serves to cover those up by creating noise.
This plays into your first question. Trump said he would be a dictator just on the first day to close the border and promote domestic oil. The media, and Biden, is now parroting that he said he would be a dictator “on day one.” That is what he said, but he said for one day, not “forever after starting day one.” It’s a joke and frankly bait for the media and democrats. They are fake news and dishonest. They even went to court with the defense that they aren’t real news agencies just entertainment to avoid following laws actual journalists are supposed to follow.
You can see another example of this in the story I just HAD to sign up to Lemmy in order to respond to. That Trump said “even if you freeze to death it will be worth it to go vote for him in Iowa.” The news, and Lemmy, are clutching their pearls. Trump cares so little about you he doesn’t care if you freeze to death! It’s a joke! And it’s made all the more funny by people trying to mischaracterize it as a serious statement. Trump is going to do this, over and over, because Americans find it absolutely hilarious. Just look at this post and the comments:
These people who refuse to let Trump tell a joke will get him reelected because it’s funny watching them try to act like Trump is being serious.
You’re not American so you don’t really get it. COULD Trump be a dictator? Not if our government works the way it is supposed to. The very premise of a President becoming a dictator is funny to Americans and made all the more entertaining because Congress has tried to make the President a dictator and now they’re walking back their own actions in the face of Trump. The AUMF and them discussing removing it is a great example. Here is one of the central core responsibilities of Congress, authorizing war, and they legislated it away and gave the President that power but NOW they want to take it away because someone that isn’t part of the club might have those powers so they’re concerned. There is a much larger context at play as to why this is so funny and why people focusing on these jokes will only further promote Trump. I’m sorry but you definitely will be hearing about it on the news every single night because it’s extremely entertaining and that’s why the “news” who characterizes itself as entertainment and not news will keep promoting it.
Trump and his supporters never organized a violent attack on the Capitol so I’m not sure what point you’re making there. Believe me, if he and his supporters had ORGANIZED AN ATTACK on the Capitol it wouldn’t have looked anything like Jan 6. The crowd at the capitol was made up of federal agents, MAGA idiots, BLM, antifa, and so on. The only person killed there was standing right next to a BLM person who is the one who kept shouting at her to climb through the window. You could just as easily say Biden and his supporters organized nation wide rioting, looting, and murder. Many, many more people died as a result of BLM associated rioting than did at the Capitol. There was billions of dollars in damage done all around the country. Except, that would be disingenous, Biden and his supporters didn’t organize that. You can’t mischaracterize tens of millions of people by the actions of a few hundred. Neither the BLM rioting or the Capitol incident involved more than a few hundred people and neither was approved by, organized by, or involved with Trump or Biden.
No, it was a pretty common thing to talk about Trump starting WW3, not being trusted with nuclear codes, that he was going to start a war with Russia. Yet we see now that we are much closer to WW3 under Biden than Trump. People can’t seem to remember this stuff but was absolutely the narrative.
It’s strange if I look up Biden WW3 it looks like he is outright talking about WW3 but I don’t see any media talking about “this is how Biden could start WW3” or “Biden could start a war with Russia.”
Your absolute statement of “no one ever said that” which I just disproved with 10 seconds of searching, because I know that is in fact what was said many times, shows that you should reconsider your understanding of the situation.
Reported, please keep discussion civil. I’m not a “dumbass tankie” I’m just stating the truth. So far the facility is fine and this person was released from prison. That stands in stark contrast to the US journalist who did make an accurate assessment of Ukraine’s government and it cost him his life.
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