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Cake day: November 16th, 2023

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  • As someone who’s had a MacBook Pro 2020 PRE M series… I’m getting a framework because I broke my screen a month out of warranty only to be quoted 500 dollars, with a trade in price of zero. With this said, MacBooks last quite a long time and are quite powerful and efficient. Think of it like this instead:

    do you want an s-tier machine now that will slowly become worse and worse over time (with a shelf life of about 7 years? I think that’s a fair assumption with all the ai innovations afoot) And when do you want to upgrade? How much do you want to spend on the upgrade? And what will you do with the computer when you are done with it?

    you could otherwise go for the machine that will be closer to B-tier (all the problems you listed are valid concerns and knock it down even though it has solid specs), but that also could become a better or stay a more consistent machine over time. Upgradability makes the framework a better “investment” for the long haul, since you can potentially improve parts or even downgrade(say for friend who really just needs a Chromebook).

    This however all is based on the premise that framework exists for more than 7 years. Apple should still exist, they should still support it, and they will definitely improve their stuff. Framework is still in a position where they could fail with bad guidance and an overall smaller user base. Making parts is still somewhat open source, so that’s encouraging, but who’s to say if amd, intel or whatever new arm processors that come out don’t break their system.

    soooo. The choice is yours! Both are solid enough options in their own right.

    and last bit of thought: MacOS is an excellent system and I’m actually gonna miss it a bit when switching to framework. So much so that I might still end up getting a Mac mini to do some of the Mac stuff I’ve been doing (Logic, photomator, and Final Cut are just that good for me). Linux is tinkery and does take time to make it work the way you want to I’ve begun to be wary of windows and all of its telemetry and slapdashed ai stuff. Framework can’t do macOS (and hackintosh is doing the most).

    happy choosing, and feel free to try and then return the framework if it isn’t for you.