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Cake day: June 10th, 2023

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  • Check out Skurka’s core 13 clothing system. At a minimum consult the capstone post and find conditions that are similar to your expected conditions. I don’t have experience in Patagonia but I do have experience conditions similar to what you’ve listed.

    2 pairs of underwear & socks. In persistent precipitation you put the wet ones back on in the morning. It only sucks for a few minutes.

    No midweight capilene and no long underwear. I would find both too warm for active use, and they are weight inefficient for static warmth. A midweight capilene top would also fit the same role as a fleece IMO.

    Pick your “go suit” and roll with it. Ie pants or shorts and t-shirt or long sleeve. Not both. OR Echo sun hoody is pretty sweet if you’re looking for a recommendation.

    I only find a beanie/warm hat necessary if my fleece is lacking a hood.

    The rest of the list looks pretty good IMO. If I was expecting to hike for a significant amount of time in wind and no rain I would consider a wind jacket. I don’t find that rain jackets breathe well enough to wear them during high aerobic output.




  • My 55 lbs pointer goes on the majority of my trips with me! I have two sleep systems:

    For overnight lows above 40F I have a MYOG dog quilt with a 10d outer and apex inner. It’s effectively a synthetic version of the Groundbird Gear Turtle Top Quilt. It’s light, cheap, and easily repairable. I don’t think this is an effective setup as lower temps as it requires a lot of fiddling.

    Below 40F, I have a Nunatak Dog Bivy. Love this thing, Nunatak consistently puts out best in class gear and this is no exception. I’m pretty sure Jan’s dog Skotti is also a McNab!

    As for pads, I basically always use a CCF pad that doubles as my sit pad during the day. I’ve dabbled with cutting down inflatables but haven’t had success yet. I think a wide, cut down, self-inflating pad may be the eventual end point.



  • BPL discussed it a little bit here. Your mileage may vary, I didn’t see any long term reports and Ultra is a very weird fabric when it comes to adhesives.

    It’s not really critical though. You should still use a pack liner with fully sealed packs. High stress seams, such as shoulder straps, will still allow water in. Pack liners allow you to access the interior of the pack during active precipitation. Eventual Ultra delamination will kill the waterproofness regardless.

    Signed an MYOG enthusiast!


  • Thanks! I guess it is a bit of a wild decision. I signed up for a couple of road marathons previously but both were cancelled due to covid. I had ramped up to 50 mile weeks for one before it was cancelled so the training wasn’t totally foreign.

    I’d definitely recommend dabbling in trail races. It’s a wildly different experience from road racing and for me all around much more enjoyable.