DeSantis fails again to denounce the open fascists in his state.
Well of course. A fascist will never call out another fascist. At least not until it suits them.
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He’s the leader of the democrats right now.
And he doesn’t represent all democrats
I’ll give you the same challenge
I’ve already explained why this comparison is silly.
An unproven model that is risky. If they really wanted to show it works, raise taxes and fund both.
It isn’t unproven, and the second wouldn’t make conservatives happy anyways so I’m not sure why you’re suggesting it.
And again, the majority of democrats never supported this.
No democrats are not better with economics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_under_Democratic_and_Republican_presidents
https://www.factsarefirst.com/metrics/gdp-growth/
https://www.self.inc/info/us-debt-by-president/
They are.
Women should have the right to compete against other females in sports and shouldn’t be subjected to undressing in front of trans women.
Trans rights doesn’t exclude this first bit, and dressing rooms should be private. This isn’t hard.
She’s entitled to her opinion as a feminist.
She is a self described TERF, aka a bigot.
They changed tune after they say people didn’t want that and crime was increasing. Yet still some are pushing it such as
Doesn’t matter because most democrats never supported it as you understand it.
It shows a trillion dollar deficit increase. Thats spending without a plan.
Which is tame in comparison to how much it grows under republicans. Under democrats the deficit usually goes down, under republicans it usually explodes. That’s because democrats are generally better at economics. Republicans just give tax breaks to the rich and borrow the remainder.
When trans rights infringe on the rights of women.
They don’t though.
Jk Rowling has written some wonderful articles on the topic
I’m going to continue to avoid her bigoted ass like the plague.
I’m not going to waste my time with a propaganda site.
And this whole excerise is just silly, because Biden doesn’t represent all democrats. Most of us hate him. So it makes no sense to extrapolate how racist democrats are off of him, especially when you’re not even considering the very long list of racist shit Trump has done.
https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/defund-the-police-still-haunts-democrats/
A minority of democrats support this as its commonly understood, and so it’s not true that democrats support this.
This isn’t a source from the democrats and therefore doesn’t support your conclusion that democrats have no spending plan.
I don’t support taking away from women to benefit trans women.
You don’t need to take away from women for trans people to have rights.
They want to dismantle the police, spend more without figuring out how to pay for anything. They push misogynistic policies.
None of that is true.
The democrats are just a mess.
They absolutely are, but not for the ressons you’re listing. That’s why I hate voting for them but unfortunately do because there are no better choices thanks to our dumb two party system.
Companies should not be running the show.
I agree. And thats why I think giving politicians money in any form should be criminalized, we should switch to STAR voting, elections should be run from shared fund pools, etc.
It’s not just a conservative group, it’s just pure propaganda.
You gotta go to higher quality sources than that.
Yes a reasonable person wouldn’t need to disavow since nobody would associate the two.
Yeah that makes no sense. If a Nazi supports me I’m going to tell them to fuck right off regardless. That’s the right thing to do.
https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/bidens-history-getting-away-racist-remarks
And this is just a propaganda group.
You made a trolling comment.
If by trolling you mean “critical”, then sure, but otherwise no.
The democrats are a party based on racism and classes. Everyone is a victim and they need the government to fix their problems.
Not really. The democrats are a corporate owned, vaguely centrist to right wing party. As for your nanny state worries, those just honestly don’t make sense.
I voted for the democrats twice and nothing came from it
Our political system is intentionally designed to only change slowly. So expecting massive change from 2 single votes is quite frankly ridiculous. And again, democrats are corporate owned, so even when they get in they largely don’t do anything useful.
No because no reasonable person would associate Nazis and Trump.
That’s not what the conversation is about though. You said:
“A normal person wouldn’t disavow something.”
Are you unable to keep track?
What sort of idiot would think Trump who has a Jewish daughter is a Nazi?
I never made that claim.
Biden on the other hand has shown support for the KKK and other white supremacist ideology.
That’s some horseshit. Your ability to fact check is lacking.
Doesn’t change he voted for Biden
As already explained, this is not equivalent.
A normal person wouldn’t disavow something.
Yes, they absolutely would, especially when they’re nazis.
Even the leader of the Neo Nazis voted for Biden.
There are more Neo Nazis groups in America than just one. And the particular one you mention was immediately disavowed by Biden.
When Trump was endorsed by the same guy, Trump said nothing until he was pressured to do so.
https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-campaign-disavows-richard-spencer-endorsement-2020-8
The valid conclusion here is not the one you’re coming to.
If you don’t want to talk about conservative politics then why be here ?
Never said that I didn’t want to talk about conservative politics. This question is a bad faith one.
Too much racism
That’s a good joke. Republicans are placing bans on teaching black history, vote to keep confederate statues, have literal neo-nazis on their side, all while waving confederate flags.
Nothing the democrats could ever do could ever compete with that.
1·10 months agoThe fact that some people claim to be Christian without actually following Christ does not mean there’s no true Christian. It’s entirely possible for you to choose to become Christian.
That’s not what a no true scotsman fallacy means. It’s a fallacious way to deflect people from being a part of a group. It is not a statement that no such group exists.
The only value we can have in life comes from God. When someone gives you a Bible verse, that is likely the most valuable thing you receive all day, if not all year.
Then it’s quite odd how I have value in my life despite it being secular. It’s almost like there are many sources of value in life beyond religion.
Thank you for all of this thought-provoking conversation
You are welcome. And thank you for keeping this as civil as it has been.
I pray you may yet find God
Like I said, you’re not the first so I wouldn’t bet on that.
numbers wise he was a good President. Our economy was better while it was mostly shutdown than it has been the whole time with Biden.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_under_Democratic_and_Republican_presidents
https://www.factsarefirst.com/metrics/gdp-growth/
https://www.self.inc/info/us-debt-by-president/
The numbers are generally better across the board for Biden than Trump, and the same goes for democrats vs republicans as a whole.
A woman is an adult FEMALE person.
So you think this person is a woman?
They don’t look like a woman to me. You can’t honestly tell me that a straight man would find this person sexually attractive. Seems to me that it is the conservatives that are confused.
My starting premise is God, and with penitent humility, God is my foregone conclusion.
You have no method to reach truth then, because you’ve shut out the possibility of anybody other than you being correct. That is incredibly vain.
It’s not an argument of any type.
It’s not a formal argument, but you know what I meant.
A prophet is someone who knows God’s plan as it applies to many people. So yes, you claimed that prophets are heretics.
That’s not what I said though. I never even used the word in the first place.
They might indeed make true statements or valid arguments now and then, but they can only do so in service of the Beast, attempting to lead others down the road to Hell.
And as a result you cannot dismiss evidence based on who is presenting it.
Nothing wrong with respecting authorities, and trusting their assessments. God is, after all, the Lord of Lords and King of Kings.
You’ve completely missed my point.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority
But that’s no fallacy;
It’s a true scottsman fallacy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
My only goal post is your acceptance of Christ.
Then I would recommend that you familiarize yourself with how logical fallacies work, because you’ve been using so many of them.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism