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Cake day: June 29th, 2023

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  • Thanks for the answer. It’s interesting that it could just be a me thing. I’m not terribly picky about my appearance IRL, but in VR having an avatar I can identify with suddenly becomes very important.

    Not sure how you managed to get past the avatar creation if you’re using a Quest

    I made a head-avatar years ago when they were first released (probably the 2019-era ones in your link). I don’t like it, but it doesn’t invoke as much of a reaction in me as the upper-body/full-body avatars I’ve seen in Horizon ads/videos.

    TBH I don’t use my Quest 1 much, and when I do it’s only for PC Link. It’s possible it’s got an update pending that will force new social features next time I start it up.


  • Do cis people also get dysphoria from those avatars?

    I (enby) get such a visceral “no fucking way I’d ever want to look like that” involuntary reaction to all of the Horizon avatars. If they forced me to make an avatar or started showing avatars in the Home menu I’d abandon my Quest completely. Wondering if it’s just a gender dysphoria thing, or if they are that repulsive for everyone.



  • They’re entirely planning to profit from them.

    What I mean is that they didn’t try to profit from their open-sourcing. They didn’t lock them behind an API or charge a licensing fee like other AI companies.

    Absolutely they’ll profit from having these models, but open-sourcing them actually gave some advantage to their competitors & the general public.

    Yeah and Bill Gates did all kinds of objectively great philanthropy but he made that money by fucking consumers repeatedly for decades.

    The difference is timing. Bill Gates only started thinking about the impact he made on the world after he completely fucked us. He’s trying to repent and just fix his reputation after the fact. Zuckerberg started trying to fix the world while relatively early into the fucking. It’s as if he realizes the harm and is trying to offset it.


  • I’m all for hating on Musk, and Meta’s hellscape of social networks and privacy violations, but when you take a step away from the capitalist front, Meta and Zuckerberg haven’t been as evil as the likes of Tesla, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, etc. Sure, he’s in a bad bunch, but IMO he’s the least bad human being in the billionaire celebrities club.

    Meta’s open-sourcing has greatly changed my life for the better: React, PyTorch, Zstandard, Yarn, etc are joys to work with compared to their competitors. LLaMA and No Language Left Behind have been huge developments in the AI world - released without trying to profit from them. The Chan Zuckerberg Initiative funds great science and even almost funded one of my projects.

    For contrast, Apple, Amazon and Tesla barely open-source anything, and a lot of Google’s open source stuff is garbage. Bill Gates eventually turned to charity after retiring from utterly ruining the PC software market, Bezos claims he plans to give his fortune away eventually, but Zuckerberg started being charitable way earlier than those guys.

    I’m all for burning down capitalism and social networks and billionaires, but not all bad things are the same level of bad.