• TrickDacy@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    23
    arrow-down
    12
    ·
    edit-2
    11 months ago

    BoTh SiDes is defeatist bullshit and just an excuse for mental laziness. Try thinking for a change.

    • Maggoty@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      13
      ·
      edit-2
      11 months ago

      The thing is for a great many people they don’t care. They aren’t getting deported. They aren’t getting shit on any worse than with Biden.

      That may change, but it didn’t in Trump’s first term. Biden has to be better now, for the working class, than Trump was. And he just isn’t.

      • EatATaco@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        11 months ago

        The POTUS has little control over the economy. But the economy is way better than when Trump left office, and the outlook is thousands of times better.

        It’s just that people bought the claim that somehow the economy going to shit under trump wasn’t his fault (it wasn’t) but now that the same thing that fucked trump is still fucking shit up, it’s Bidens fault.

      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        7
        ·
        11 months ago

        Is the suggestion here that minorities shouldn’t or don’t matter even though they are a solid chunk of the working class?

        • Maggoty@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          11 months ago

          Oh, wow this was supposed to have a response last night. I guess Lemmy hiccuped.

          The problem is that minorities are in fact minorities. You can’t win based on them. And even a bunch of them aren’t seeing the election as an existential fight. They didn’t see an increase in their situation under Biden. If Biden only makes concrete improvements for the upper classes then there’s no direct reason for the lower classes to show up for him.

          This is how autocrats have gotten elected time and time again. Democracy requires actually helping the voting class. When it doesn’t, the voters are more than happy to vote themselves out of a democracy.

    • blazera@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      14
      ·
      11 months ago

      You’re talking at me and not taking in what im saying. Working full time every week, my life is worse off now than before Biden took office. Im not going to vote to make my life worse.

      • Maggoty@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        11 months ago

        The only real reason to vote for Biden is his commitment to letting us vote again in 2028. Something Trump seems soft on. What are our options in 2028? Lmao

      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        11 months ago

        I do hear what you’re saying. You apparently think another option would be better, despite the mountains of evidence against that

        • blazera@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          10
          ·
          11 months ago

          The mountains of what? What evidence? Evidence of presidencies besides Biden and Trump’s??

      • TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        11 months ago

        Worse off during Biden is different from worse off because of Biden. Hitting the brakes while going downhill 200 MPH doesn’t completely stop you from going more downhill. Every modern Republican has been so incredibly short-sighted that it’s genuinely destroying our future by insane levels.