“AI goes around the internet and scrapes all of the lyrics but never provides any credits,” says Bryan-Kinns. “If an AI makes a song, gets famous, went to No 1, who would get money from them? Certainly not the people in the huge dataset of millions of songs. …
Last summer, the [UK] government set out proposals to amend copyright laws that would allow AI creators to exploit musicians’ back catalogues without permission or compensation.
These types of grandstanders are the worst, they want to be worshipped and treated like gods to then only whip out x2 usb sticks with playlists all at the same tempo.
Working in a post office is technically more complicated than many of these frauds.
… So yeah, technology is really a double-edged sword.
And it does culture and creative people no good that the industry is so concentrated that talent is driven out
(see the market for lemons for the economic reality).FWIW, heres an album I made a decade ago
https://soundcloud.com/4a-6f-6e-6e-79-20-2b-20-5
… I guess an AI could do something equivalent - though obviously it would lack artistic intent, it was a product of love and passion not hashing others work.
The entertainment industry is nothing but capitalism, there is no emotion left. So that will not make difference other than capitalism consequences. Everything is produced by a few companies and producers, and performers just perform for the profit, fame, influence of it. AI is just the next step. For this mainstream industry in specific, I do not hold feelings. As true artists are long forgotten anyway.
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Ive made a good side career selling lp vinyl, given how poor the contemporary state of the music industry is. The worse the state of the economy the more these old artifacts become assets of economic significant.
Funny old world, given how these things used to be more of a casual object when the music industry was more equal and less parasitic.
Given how Covid has decimated most musicians ability to make money, let alone the amount of recording that bigger and more established artists did during the pandemic I would hate to be a young performer.
Ive made a good side career selling lp vinyl, given how poor the contemporary state of the music industry is. The worse the state of the economy the more these old artifacts become assets of economic significant.
Oh I’ve seen this and I’m glad this is a thing; not exactly reselling old vinyls, but the fact underground artists are able to release new/old stuff in vinyl format with wonderfully-production made with the heart instead of solely profit in mind.
I would hate to be a young performer.
I have come to known a very good young performer, but that workpath was just impossible. As I see it, doing music or art at this point is only good for individual/collective human expression; totally unfeasible doing a career over it as it is meaningless at this point.
> The entertainment industry is nothing but capitalism, there is no emotion left. So that will not make difference other than capitalism consequences. Everything is produced by a few companies and producers, and performers just perform for the profit, fame, influence of it. AI is just the next step. For this mainstream industry in specific, I do not hold feelings. As true artists are long forgotten anyway.
Im a crate-digger, nice profits in grading & pricing forgotten gems ;)
> I have come to known a very good young performer, but that workpath was just impossible. As I see it, doing music or art at this point is only good for individual/collective human expression; totally unfeasible doing a career over it as it is meaningless at this point.
I saw it ago 20 years interviewing talented and reasonably well known artists - when I was a student journalist.
They looked to be doing fine, but what if you werent well known or successful…> Oh I’ve seen this and I’m glad this is a thing; not exactly reselling old vinyls, but the fact underground artists are able to release new/old stuff in vinyl format with wonderfully-production made with the heart instead of solely profit in mind.
Alas from at least 5 years the major labels block booked a lot of the LP printing presses for reissues, making it impossible for independent artists to get a pressing without roughly a 9 month lag.
Alas from at least 5 years the major labels block booked a lot of the LP printing presses for reissues, making it impossible for independent artists to get a pressing without roughly a 9 month lag.
I see. In the case I mentioned, what I see is underground artists with underground labels since the beginning now partnering up with new underground labels who got the rights someway for reissuing, or releasing unreleased content.
> Oh I’ve seen this and I’m glad this is a thing; not exactly reselling old vinyls, but the fact underground artists are able to release new/old stuff in vinyl format with wonderfully-production made with the heart instead of solely profit in mind.
Also, the use of streaming music services mean that its harder for independent artists or unknowns to take the unpredictable risks.
I decided not to prioritise such things, though casual DJing allowed me to keep doing it and give me enough cashflow to do other less commercial activities.
Over the 20 years Ive been DJing the development of laptop DJing and increasingly highend CD players has made me seem a llittle anacronistic.
I try to buy music as a media, as its responsible, has individual advantages and it later got rewarded through me having an asset I can use for trading.@indieterminacy@lemmy.ml @yuu However, it did bug me that I was always economically at a disadvantage against more privileged types of people who didnt feel the need to play by these rules as a performer.
Ive had abuses even from pseuds being mean about my equipment, while having the temerity not to bring their own and not knowing how to mix using the capabilities of the equipment they have.
