• Armen12@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    I love how a country is allowed to just get away with killing children and UN workers and doctors and journalists but we condemn countries that do the same thing like Russia. It makes no sense that Israel should get a free pass, all it does is expose a huge double standard

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      7 months ago

      False equivalence.

      Russia bombed Kiev for the hell of it, not even pretending there was a military objective. Russia also is conscripting Ukrainians to fight against their fellow countrymen as cannon-fodder on the front line. It is kidnapping children into Russia.

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      7 months ago

      If Ukraine had initially launched an attack on Russia and killed 1,200 mainlycivilians, taken 200+ hostages and thrown in a bit of organised gang rape, I doubt Ukraine would be receiving its current level of support, and there may even have been some support for retaliatory action by Russia.

      That’s not to say that Israel’s current appalling treatment of Palestinian civilians is justified

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        Except it wasn’t Palestine that attacked, it was a group disassociated with the Palestinian Authority, that Israel itself funds so it can justify the “war” to favor the arms dealers and distract the constituents of the terrible administration they’re receiving.

        The two conflicts are not even remotely comparable.

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              7 months ago

              Given that I was replying to a message drawing equivalence, you’ll see that I was saying that they weren’t really equivalent, in that Ukraine hadn’t mounted an attack on Russian civilians. Hope that helps.

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        It’s crazy. On reddit, it’s 90%

        Let’s ignore how many people israel has killed, they need to kill more, and let’s also go ahead an label everyone who says “too much” a hamas supporter

        Then you go here and it’s again 90%

        Let’s not even call hamas terrorist, more like freedom-fighters with some friendly rape and friendly fire thrown in.

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          7 months ago

          I don’t agree with this characterization at all.

          Here in the fediverse there are many people with opinions similar to mine, i.e we are on the side of civillians, not any of the belligerents in this hellscape of war crimes.

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          7 months ago

          You are describing r/Worldnews not other Reddit subs.

          And Lemmy has been 50-50, with very little actual personal attacking.

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            Worldnews mods are clearly fascist. They banned me for being skeptical of IDF sources

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              If it makes you feel any better, I got banned for my first and only comment there (not even a post) which was a link and an explanation of the high credentials of the author. Like this…

              https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream

              Hersh first gained recognition in 1969 for exposing the My Lai Massacre and its cover-up during the Vietnam War, for which he received the 1970 Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting.

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                Yeah they are clearly forcing a narrative there.

                I wouldn’t be surprised if someone from IDF social media team is involved in some way, either as a mod or paying the mods handsomely

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            7 months ago

            I do not visit worldnews. This description fits to both /r/europe and /r/de.

            And regarding lemmy, maybe on other instances, but I’m only on beehaw.

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              Haven’t visited those subs.

              I might be describing beehaw rather than other Lemmy instances. That was why I joined beehaw, because it promised civility.

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      Isreal’s main exports are cutting-edge technology found nowhere else in the world. Russia’s main export is oil. Western and European Union countries were fine getting their oil elsewhere, but they absolutely do not want to give up advanced tech. Especially since there will always be other countries that don’t care and will continue trading anyway.