Islam (the religion) has acquired a strange immunity from all criticism, likely due to the very savvy and sneaky way the term islamophobia has been (very dishonestly) cross-linked to both the people and the religion. Ergo, any criticism of the religion becomes de facto bigotry against the people.
Problem is, if a religion requires immunity from criticism, that religion has no right to exist.
Just look at how George Carlin roasted Christianity. Now try doing that with Islam. You’d become instantly unemployable in the western world, your agent’s firm would likely go bankrupt, and even the venue owner would likely have to undergo a complete multi-million-dollar rebranding to escape the fallout.
And that’s assuming you wouldn’t be shot dead during your skit by someone in the audience.
I am very far left, deeply socialist to borderline communist. But something has gone deeply wrong with the left when Islam cannot be criticized whatsoever.
Do we not mock Islam because it’s immune to criticism, or is it just because we know very little about it? Carlin roasted the religion, and its inconsistencies and hypocrises. He could do that because we’re all intimately familiar with it, even atheists. I don’t recall that he advocated bigotry against individual Christians.
Could one do a stand-up routine about “Hanafis be like this, while Sanafi’is be like that”? Probably. Nobody’d understand it, though. Personally, most of the criticism of Islam I’ve heard is more like, “Muslims are all murderers because the Qu’ran says to kill non-believers, so let’s ban them.” On the other hand, I have heard some criticism of the way that mosques here still have separate, lesser entrances for women, and that didn’t get anybody’s employment threatened.
the term islamophobia has been (very dishonestly) cross-linked to both the people _and the religion
The same can be said for Judaism and anti-semitism yet people criticize Jews and Judaism all the time. I really don’t think that’s the reason.
As the person below you points out, the majority of the time someone criticizes Islam they’re painting with a very broad brush, typically in a bigoted way talking about something they clearly don’t understand. If you pick specifics that actually make sense like that person’s example of entrances for women being shitty, then that’s fine.
As with anything it’s about how you approach the subject. Bill Maher criticizes Islam all the damn time and he hasn’t been cancelled yet, in fact his show has been running for 20 years. The idea that you can’t criticize Islam is bunk.
Islam (the religion) has acquired a strange immunity from all criticism, likely due to the very savvy and sneaky way the term islamophobia has been (very dishonestly) cross-linked to both the people and the religion. Ergo, any criticism of the religion becomes de facto bigotry against the people.
Problem is, if a religion requires immunity from criticism, that religion has no right to exist.
Just look at how George Carlin roasted Christianity. Now try doing that with Islam. You’d become instantly unemployable in the western world, your agent’s firm would likely go bankrupt, and even the venue owner would likely have to undergo a complete multi-million-dollar rebranding to escape the fallout.
And that’s assuming you wouldn’t be shot dead during your skit by someone in the audience.
I am very far left, deeply socialist to borderline communist. But something has gone deeply wrong with the left when Islam cannot be criticized whatsoever.
Do we not mock Islam because it’s immune to criticism, or is it just because we know very little about it? Carlin roasted the religion, and its inconsistencies and hypocrises. He could do that because we’re all intimately familiar with it, even atheists. I don’t recall that he advocated bigotry against individual Christians.
Could one do a stand-up routine about “Hanafis be like this, while Sanafi’is be like that”? Probably. Nobody’d understand it, though. Personally, most of the criticism of Islam I’ve heard is more like, “Muslims are all murderers because the Qu’ran says to kill non-believers, so let’s ban them.” On the other hand, I have heard some criticism of the way that mosques here still have separate, lesser entrances for women, and that didn’t get anybody’s employment threatened.
The same can be said for Judaism and anti-semitism yet people criticize Jews and Judaism all the time. I really don’t think that’s the reason.
As the person below you points out, the majority of the time someone criticizes Islam they’re painting with a very broad brush, typically in a bigoted way talking about something they clearly don’t understand. If you pick specifics that actually make sense like that person’s example of entrances for women being shitty, then that’s fine.
As with anything it’s about how you approach the subject. Bill Maher criticizes Islam all the damn time and he hasn’t been cancelled yet, in fact his show has been running for 20 years. The idea that you can’t criticize Islam is bunk.
The fuck you talking about? This is about Israel vs Hamas. We’re not here just dunking on religion. Go find an atheist board.