• Stamets@startrek.websiteOP
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    11 months ago

    I’m sorry but that entire blog post is complete garbage and not worth even remotely paying attention to.

    The majority of it is whining that Wil promoted a blocklist on twitter. That blocklist was originally made to block trolls and stuff but it ran out of support. One of the people working on it pushed their own which Wil supported. What Wil didn’t know, and what many other people who were sharing the tool has no idea about, was that the user had introduced personal blocks into that list and used it as their own thing to go trans people they had beef with. Wil openly admitted to not knowing this and trying to fix the problem in his own blocklist. The article then seems to bash Wil repeatedly for this fact while leaning on “Well he didn’t share the tools enough to fix the problem!” as the sole reason why Wil should be shamed for this mistake. He made a mistake. He was not actively targeting trans people or bashing them. Framing it that he was is the most disingenuous bullshit I can think of.

    “However, the most recent dust-up with Wheaton wasn’t about trans specific issues at all but over his friendship with Chris Hardwick.” Also not a remotely valid complaint as the accusations against Chris Hardwick were made by one woman, was investigated, and found to be demonstrably false. I’m not about to shame Wil for being friends with someone who didn’t do anything wrong. So much so that I’m going to quote Wil Wheaton himself on that debacle because I refuse to put anymore effort into it.

    I’m not going to apologize to people who were let down by me, because I waited for the facts to come in instead of rushing to join their angry mob. Chris was investigated multiple times and cleared of every accusation, by all of them. And that’s still not good enough for some people, who I also will not apologize to. If ANYTHING his accuser said were true, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Because fundamental values matter. I am not and will not be friends with someone who sexually assaults another person or any of the other things she lied about, and I’m insulted that you think I would be.

    Let me be really clear about this: she didn’t exaggerate. She didn’t take things out of context. She straight up LIED. She made things up that aren’t true. She lied about multiple events that I and others witnessed. And there is so much more you don’t know about, because it was never made public. So I didn’t make a friendship exception, because there was no friendship exception to be made. After the facts came in, I stood with and supported my friend who didn’t do any of the things he was accused of doing. I stood by my friend who was cleared multiple times by multiple investigations. I stood by my friend who I had LONG and DIFFICULT conversations with, as I went through every single accusation with him, in my personal effort to get to the truth.

    I know there are people who just don’t want to hear this, because they would possibly feel bad about being part of that angry mob, but that doesn’t make it less true: Chris was in a toxic relationship that was unhealthy and horrible. I had a front row seat to it. They were TERRIBLE together. They fought all the time. They brought out the absolute worst in each other. It was awful. All of that is true. And none of the things she said about him in her essay happened. That is also true. She made it all up, because, in her own words, she couldn’t let him “win” when they broke up, whatever the fuck that meant.

    I’ve given you a lot more of my time than I wanted to. I’m just real sick and tired of this lie about Chris going unchallenged by people who paid attention to the lie and then either ignored or rejected the truth when that truth came out.

    So to recap: Wil Wheaton is “problematic” for making a genuine mistake and for backing up his friend who did nothing wrong.

    Yeah. Doesn’t seem that problematic to me.

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      11 months ago

      And this right here is why I don’t do Xitter or Tumblr. Getting this worked up over esoteric personal details of C-list podcast hosts is just not worth my time or mental energy. I’m glad there are people like you to keep things straight like you did here, but my god, these keyboard warriors have way too much time on their hands.

      Litigating a stranger’s legal troubles isn’t their job. There’s literally a system for that already.

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        11 months ago

        Exactly. I don’t want to do this shit but if I see someone lying or actively misrepresenting reality then I’m going to point it out.

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          This is my biggest problem with the left. You have to agree with all their opinions. Identify with all their beliefs, or you’re a nazi. J.K. Rowling is a good example. Donated millions of dollars to worthy causes. Huge feminist. Staunch leftist. But disagree with one subject regarding .000001% of the population (T people stuff)? Boom. She’s a bigoted, nazi transphobe.

          This is a small example of cancel culture, but there’s this bi-annual video game speed running marathon called Games Done Quick (GDQ). They raise a few million dollars every six months for the Cancer Foundation and Doctors Without Boarders. When that new Hairy Potter video game dropped, not only did GDQ ban that game from participating in their event, they banned ALL Hairy Potter video games.

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            this is not a left vs right issue, if you had actually bothered to watch the video you’d know that “diet nazis” were glad to take Lindsay Ellis down.

            in fact right-wing, fascists will gladly push cancel culture themselves, they mostly don’t care, but it’s another form of power they can abuse.

            You have to agree with all their opinions. Identify with all their beliefs, or you’re a nazi.

            maybe on the internet, but then you can go outside and touch grass and realize that that shit doesn’t matter.

            Boom. She’s a bigoted, nazi transphobe.

            I mean, she is a transphobe, she is not just disagreeing with that stuff, she is actively pushing her own shit that’s labelled as TERF. She is donating too.

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              11 months ago

              Shut the fuck up and get out.

              This is not your place to tell people to fuck off out of Risa. If you see something bigoted, you know where the report button is. Throwing a tantrum does no one any favours.

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                11 months ago

                Well given your incredibly hateful and transphobic comment that violates the instance rules, not sure you’re gonna have a choice in that, bubba.

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                  11 months ago

                  Calling that comment, “incredibly hateful and transphobic”, can take power away from things that are actually hateful and transphobic. JK Rowling is a transphobe and can fuck off, for sure, but that comment was not hateful. They never even mentioned their own opinion on Trans rights anywhere in it. It was just an incredibly naive and ignorant take about the JK Rowling situation.

                  That being said, it was a bad take, for sure. It’s dumb to give anyone a pass for shitty behavior based on other things that they have done.

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                    No. Your comment is wrong.

                    They openly are defending a known extreme transphobe who supports TERFS and donates to them. They underplayed the transphobia. They suggested that being bigoted against trans folks is okay because they’re a small subset of the population. They said that others were wrong for saying that she’s a transphobe despite her transphobic behavior. By saying that, they have openly stated their opinion. They didn’t need to say anything more. If you defend a transphobe thats because you are a transphobe.

                    The only person here who is naive as fuck is you and I am not giving you another second of my time.

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                  Hahaha now I’M a transphobe? Your hyperbole is off the scales. I don’t give a crap about T people one way or the other. I barely think about them. Hateful? Jesus christ. Get a grip on reality. Though seeing much time you spend on this website it’s a fair possibility the internet is your reality.

                  My heart breaks for you people. You have zero interest in any opinion that doesn’t perfectly align with your own. You willingly, and gladly, live in an echo chamber.

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      i was very disappointed to read about his experience on mastadon as well.

      wil was one of the reasons i jumped onto reddit very early on, he was around before subreddits even hit. its disappointing he isnt a part of this new nonsense.