I remember the power in the eastern half of my state being knocked out because of an ice storm. I remember that a lot of gas stations were closed, because the pumps run on electricity.
Not to mention for civilization to collapse a hell of a lot of people have to die; which probably means environmental collapse; which means the oceans are dying; which in turn means there’s no oxygen being produced because the keystone species (phytoplankton, algae, etc) are mostly dead or switching to toxic modes of energy production. This means that everyone is dying, no matter if they have an ugly DRM controlled polywagon or not.
Past civilisations weren’t even close to industrialised, nor did they span the entire globe. The closest was the Roman Empire of course, and they just sort of faded away over the course of a few thousand years if you count Justinian’s Byzantine Empire as a direct continuation.
Our present situation is much more dire, with global consequences for reasons you are likely already aware.
Oh sure, but just wait until they find out the apocalypse also means no electricity…
I remember the power in the eastern half of my state being knocked out because of an ice storm. I remember that a lot of gas stations were closed, because the pumps run on electricity.
Yes and no. The pumps are just pumps.
If you didn’t have to meter it and tie that to a credit card, you could pump the gas with a hand pump.
Not to mention for civilization to collapse a hell of a lot of people have to die; which probably means environmental collapse; which means the oceans are dying; which in turn means there’s no oxygen being produced because the keystone species (phytoplankton, algae, etc) are mostly dead or switching to toxic modes of energy production. This means that everyone is dying, no matter if they have an ugly DRM controlled polywagon or not.
You should look into how past civilizations collapsed. They collapse quite quickly without a lot of mass death (beforehand, I mean).
Past civilisations weren’t even close to industrialised, nor did they span the entire globe. The closest was the Roman Empire of course, and they just sort of faded away over the course of a few thousand years if you count Justinian’s Byzantine Empire as a direct continuation.
Our present situation is much more dire, with global consequences for reasons you are likely already aware.
You probably want to read a bit of Tainter.
Why? I’m talking about the collapse of environmental systems that support the life of every oxygen breathing species on the planet, not anthropology.
Maybe you walked into the wrong conversation by mistake then.
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Solar panels won’t just stop working, you know. I have a solar generator. Takes forever to charge but it does get power.