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Italy bans cultivated meat products::New law prohibits the production or sale of cultivated meat in Italy, with fines of up to €60,000
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Italy is the first nation in the world to be safe from the social and economic risks of synthetic food
more like the only nation to consider all cultivated meat a problem and prohibit it instead of regulating it.
social and economic risks of synthetic food
yeah 2 things humans just will never solve for, better shut it down. shut it all down.
It’s funny how you can replace synthetic food in that sentence with almost anything and it makes as much sense as the original sentence.
prohibit it instead of regulating it.
It’s like 90% of Italy’s mindset 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
(Really tho, if we start regulating stuff there would be shit rules)
So they’re banning what’s likely the “end all, be all” meat replacement in the (hopefully not so distant) future just so that being a “livestock farmer” remains viable?
Yes but of course. “Ban the machines that can harvest our crops, we want to keep our slaves” Its so sad to see…
Protectionism has always been strong in the livestock industry. It’s why burgers cost 1/5 a salad at McDonalds.
Communism is a hell of a drug.
You’ve demonstrated that ignorance is a hell of a problem.
Hold on, which way is communism? Banning it or not banning it?
‘In defence of health, of the Italian production system, of thousands of jobs, of our culture and tradition, with the law approved today, Italy is the first nation in the world to be safe from the social and economic risks of synthetic food,’
Health? Yeah, get back to me the next time there’s an outbreak of mad cow disease, swine flu, or bird flu and say that to my face.
Jobs? The synthetic meat isn’t going to make itself, and there will always be a market for “organic” meat in any case.
Tradition? The human race’s oldest and most persistent fallacy. The democracy of the dead.
This is shortsighted. This guys sounds exactly like the idiot lawmakers here in America who said solar panels and electric cars will never catch on, so what’s the point in investing in them now?
I wonder how much money the country makes by protecting those traditional methods of producing meats and exporting their products at high prices. Maybe that’s what they’re after. 🤔
A few individuals probably received a large payday to institute this policy.
I’m a big fan of traditional meats
We have a really stupid minister in charge of this stuff. And i mean it in the truest sense of the word, this guy has a room temperature iq.
Anyways, the sale ban will probably fail in court, the production ban will only harm the italian industry because sure as hell they can’t stop european synthetic meat from entering the country.
Room temperature Celsius no less
We’re talking Italy, so Celsius is assumed.
They can’t stop synth meat coming in at the minute, but they can after they decide to Italeave… that doesn’t sound as good as Brexit, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it happened.
There will be no italeave/italexit. Even the worst populist here knows it’s suicide.
The UK knew it was suicide and did it anyway.
Never underestimate the power of stupid.
Luckily while this government is stupid, they are not anti-european, so italexit is not a possibility.
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Fake news. There’s a proposal from March, it is not a law. And it’s so stupid that it bans production, not import (just to fuck over an already stalling economy)
But don’t spread fake news.
Edit: found article on sole24ore. You are right and our government is a bunch of removed.
Edit2: https://www.linkiesta.it/2023/12/mattarella-legge-carne-coltivata-servira-prima-lok-dellue/ This article says that our beloved president Mattarella did not sign it and sent it to Brussel for review.
BBC article states “Italian MPs have voted to back a law banning the production, sale or import of cultivated meat or animal feed, in what the right-wing government calls a defence of Italian tradition.”
I’m Italian, no news is speaking about it. Last articles are from 28-29 March talking about a proposal, so not yet law.
It’s a law now, albeit probably it’s not really applicable and the EU will give us trouble the first time a European company appeals, because it limits the EU market and has not been accepted preventive by the EU.
Italian article: https://www.ilsole24ore.com/art/il-divieto-carne-artificiale-e-legge-AFLY77eB
Dio cane che ritardo mentale.
Non ho trovato articoli comunque, grazie
It’s even worse, the government approved the law but they didn’t notify it to EU neither sent it to Mattarella to sign it, so it could not be enforced… removed
https://www.wired.it/article/carne-coltivata-divieto-bloccato-firma-mattarella-europa/
Not even the first time that they don’t know the right procedure to do one of the most basic stuff of their job
All of these links say yes, it’s a law that the sale and production of synthetic meat is banned in Italy.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67448116
https://www.barrons.com/news/italy-bans-production-sale-of-lab-grown-meat-328efe2d
https://www.just-food.com/news/italys-ban-on-cultivated-meat-approved-by-lawmakers/
I’m Italian, no news is speaking about it. Last articles are from 28-29 March talking about a proposal, so not yet law.
Edit: found article on sole24ore. You are right and our government is a bunch of removed.
I’m Italian, no news is speaking about it. Last articles are from 28-29 March talking about a proposal, so not yet law.
Edit: found article on sole24ore. You are right and our government is a bunch of removed.
We’re a sad country
Please, non-Italians, pay attention: that has nothing to do with Italian cuisine, no chefs, traditional groups or whatsoever said anything about cultivated meat. And no dumb scientist said anything either. It’s just some bigot, retrograde minister of ours.
Thanks for the insight, friend
Sorry you have that idiota
Yes it’s stupid, yes many Italians are pissed about this too, yes this will sunk our economy even more, yey italy
This is stupid.
It’s stupid and fake!
Is that what the people want, or some big key to power that stands to inevitably lose out? If other countries transition out of meat livestock isn’t it pointless to handicap yourself?
Italian parma ham and such is quite famous and Italians seem to take their authentic cuisine very seriously. Supposedly there afraid that low quality fake meat will overrun the current market. I imagine the meet industry there is quite powerful though so assume lobbying was part of this.
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Which means if they allowed cultured meat then surely there gonna be companies trying to find the maximum legal allowed they can add to call it parma.
Honestly, i am a big fan of proper tasting cruelty free labgrown meat and i cant wait till it gets cheap. I Believe quality might succeed what the average consumer can get now. I am just putting myself in the hide of a conservative Italian lawmaker per exercise.
Since Italians take the authenticity of foods so seriously, Prosciutto di Parma and many other foods are already protected by DOP designation.
Italy be taking a lotta L’s these days. I wonder who they will side with in WW3?
Hey now, they were on the winning side during WW1. That’s something.
Don’t they have a volcano about to decimate them?
Thank you for your appreciation! We actually have more than one (Vesuvio, Etna, Stromboli, etc.) and please don’t underestimate earthquakes.
I’m all in for the death of humanity but why us specifically? Don’t be racist, be inclusive.
Idk why you specifically, you might want to put a ticket in to the lead programmer. I just heard that a certain volcano may be blowing its top soon.
Hey now, they were on the winning side during WW1. That’s something.
Hey now, they were on the winning side during WW1. That’s something.
They’ve cited health, yet I can’t seem to find the health risk argument. Other than that, standard Italian politics where representatives are changed quite often.
“health” was the answer to the question that followed “what do you mean we have to provide a citation?”
Italy you say? The one EU member that has repeatedly used its power to lock down ag requirements and protections for it own foods for the other member states?
The only upside is that gabbagol is delicious, and who would want to fuck that up?
It locks down names. You can produce parmisan, you can’t label it “parmigiano reggiano”.
Reactionaries opposing technological innovations that would prevent suffering because they’re not ‘natural’. Color me surprised.
Slightly off-topic, but, is there a Lemmy community for cellular agriculture, akin to r/wheresthebeef? That’s one of the few remaining subreddits I haven’t found a Lemmy replacement for yet.
You have piqued my interest. Is this something people do at home? Grow their own meats?
Sounds gross. I’m totally in.
Is this something people do at home Grow their own meats?
Not yet, and possibly not ever. Most current development is limited to academic institutions and small startup companies. But who knows what the future brings? Perhaps one day people will grow steaks at home similar to how one might ferment their own beer or yogurt. My guess is that it would be more trouble than it’s worth for the average people though.
